Tuesday, May 14, 2019

Marvel and Jonathan Hickman Unveil Plans for 'Whole New Era' of X-Men

ComicBook.com: This summer, everything will change for the X-Men when Jonathan Hickman makes his return to Marvel Comics. It begins with House of X and Powers of X, two six-issue miniseries. Based on our interview with Hickman, these miniseries set up a bold new era that will redefine the X-Men for years to come.


So, you're back at Marvel? How'd that happen?

Jonathan Hickman: Well, I was sitting in a LA hotel room a year-and-a-half ago and I got a call from Dan Buckley asking me to consider holding on some other projects until he had a chance to make me an offer. I, of course, said 'of course' as both he and Marvel have been good to me over the years.

So, we got on the phone and talked about a lot of things: What I'd like to do if I came back, what he'd like for me to do, and some vertically-integrated opportunities at the company that were not available when I was there last.

And then, he basically told me that my mandate if I came back would be to just 'try things.' Which on top of everything he'd already said made it a pretty attractive proposition.

Obviously, I accepted.

And this led to X-Men?

JH: Yeah. I mean, I threw out quite a few ideas I had for other books, but X-Men was the bigger, more timely, idea. It was certainly the one I was most excited about.

So, I thought about what I wanted to do, and more importantly, what I thought the line needed, and then I flew up to the Marvel offices and pitched all of senior editorial what I had in mind. We met for a while, fought a little bit, then I went back home and polished everything up, and then, about a year ago, I presented the entirety of it at a Marvel retreat. Which went well.

We have been working hard on it ever since then.

Did you always want to introduce this next era for the X-Men with House of X and Powers of X? How did this idea start for you?

JH: Okay, so, for the most part, I don't believe incrementalism works in fictional universes, and that, I think, is why almost every big franchise change that occurs has a delineated starting point. I mean, it does work, which is why the industry often abuses it as a sales tactic.

And in the spirit of 'what works' and also 'what the market is used to', I didn't feel like just doing a new number one was enough. I also didn't think that if we were serious about what we were trying to do we should have a mixed message in the market about what an X-book is.

So I argued for cancelling the entire line: Why it would work, why it was a good idea, and most importantly, why it was what we needed to do narratively to return the X-Men to their rightful prominent position in the Marvel Universe.

We needed to sell the idea that this is what we're going to be doing for the next few years. So if you want to read X-Men books during the run from late-July through September, House of X and Powers of X are the only new X-books available and everything that's going to follow is based on them. We wanted to be clear to the fans, to the stores, and just as importantly, to the creators who are going to be staffing these books in the future. We wanted the message to be very clear: This is a whole new era for the X-Men. This is what we're doing now.

And so, POX and HOX is how we're starting. It's a solid plan, I think.

You’ve said that fans will need to pick up both House of X and Powers of X to get the full story. Can you go into any more detail on how they relate? Why two six-issue series instead of one 12-issue series?

JH: Well, there's a practical element to all this, which is we only wanted one artist on each series. And based on the timeline, that wouldn't be possible with a higher issue count because we only had, roughly, a nine-month production window. So in my head, one single narrative was never an option.

But honestly, that really never was a concern because, in the same manner as when I was working on FF/F4 and Avengers/New Avengers, the format is basically two stories about one story.

One, House of X, is a story about a pivotal month in the history of the X-men where everything changes for mutants on Earth. And the other, Powers of X, is a story about the history of mutants in the Marvel Universe. It works as a series of reveals and revelations where each issue of HOX that follows POX -- and vice versa -- makes you reinterpret the issue you had previously read.

And then, obviously, at the end they crash together in a way that propels us forward into a new X-Universe.


What should fans expect from these two series?

JH: Big X-Men things. Some cool new ideas. A lot of your favorite mutants. Definitely some killer art, as Pepe and R.B. are doing an incredible job.

How prominent is the mutant metaphor in your take on the X-Men? Is that something you’re leaning into, or are you leaning more towards to sci-fi elements of the X-Men’s mythology?

JH: If by 'sci-fi elements' you mean some basic evolutionary biology, a little genetic homogeny, a lot of contact linguistics or, you know, how mutants bend the Kardashev scale, then sure. We'll be doing all that stuff.

As to the other, I'm not sure how you get away from doing metaphor when you're writing X-books. I suppose that, narratively, the problem nowadays is interpretation. Are we talking about a stand-in for marginalized groups, or the metaphor simply being a substitution of the word 'different' for 'special', or is the real modern complication atomization? Where everything is segmented to such a degree that there are no stories which mean something to everyone. Where the psychological expectation is something catered, or personalized.

I suspect that last bit also has a lot to do with why we've been in a nostalgic feedback loop for quite a while. Where everyone is telling X-Men stories about other X-Men stories.

With all that in mind, I think I have a pretty good idea of how to move all of this forward. Hopefully I'll get it right.

While we know you can’t share too much, can you share any details around this new direction of what’s happening in the X-Universe? Are there plans after House of X and Powers of X?

JH: At the conclusion of our 12 weeks of HOX and POX, we'll be launching an entire new universe of X-books. Some will be traditional fare, some carry through on ideas presented in HOX and POX. Some books are completely new concepts. I, personally, will be writing the ongoing flagship X-book.

Now, we're already in production on all of these 'Wave 1' books and our plan at this moment is to introduce the titles, creative teams, and publishing details around SDCC, which is a week before HOX #1 goes on sale.

We also just finished our plans for our 'Wave 2' books that will debut in 2020 and we're getting ready to hire talent for those.

It's pretty exciting, and this kind of long-term planning is one of the benefits of knowing what direction you're headed for the next few years.

Throughout their history, the X-Men have been depicted varying as a superhero team, a family, a school faculty, outlaws, and mutant law enforcement. How do you describe your version of the X-Men?

JH: Oh, I think the X-Men is about finding the family that you never knew you had. One that accepts you for who you are, who loves you at your best and worst, and who shares your dreams for what the world can be.

You know, everybody wants to love somebody, everyone wants to be loved, and it's pretty great when you find both. Especially if you're, say, a weirdo mutant with eyeballs covering your whole body.

11 comments:

Jaime Braz said...

The two books will be interconnected and shake things up. I hope it will be a positive earthquake not a natural disaster. Hickman is talented and that's a plus. I wonder if he treats Betsy right.

randybear said...

I'm just not hyped for this. We know nothing about this event and the prominent characters revealed to be involved do not interest me at all.

I still have Emma fatigue lol she was crammed in every xbook for over 10yrs the break is still needed.

FSaker said...

Wow! I was already intrigued with the twin books, and now I'm even more interested. It seems Hickman did an extensive planning for the relaunch of the X-Men and also that he intends to make them important again in the Marvel universe.

As for the prominent characters, well, we still don't know how many of them this story will have. Monet and Archangel weren't hinted in this project until today (and the same goes for whoever the woman between them is), and same goes for Mystique, Toad, Sabretooth, Magik, Kitty and so on. In other words, it's still quite possible that Betsy will be part of these books, and other mutants as well (I'd LOVE if Hickman included ForgetMeNot, but I'll be satisfied if Betsy is in them).

And the way how each book is supposed to tell a separate story yet one will bring twists to the other is interesting. It reminds me of the Danganronpa 3 anime, which was split in the Future arc and Despair arc - then again, Danganronpa 3 was awful, so I hope Hickman's story execution is better than Kodaka's...

Finn said...

I hope Psylocke will be a main character eventually on these books.

Rahsaan said...

I have faith in Hickman.

Rahsaan said...

I have faith and am gonna give him a chance, because he specifically mandated Marvel address the two elephants in the X Office:

1. Rehashing and redoing overdone past stories for nostalgia that is tired.

2. The over abundance of books that they insist on. I agree that all the current titles need to be canceled. Going forward, we only nee two to four titles very max.

Rahsaan said...

And the art is sick! 🔥

randybear said...

Never said it would be bad just as of writing I am just eh about it. The art looks gorgeous but the specific members he has pointed out in interviews aren't my favorites is all.

Trust me I'm going to be actually BUYING these comics not just illegally downloading them and giving my shit opinion on them like most others haha

FSaker said...

@randybear - Don't worry, we understood what you meant. You're not hyped about this project from what you saw and know so far, and that's perfectly fine.

In fact, your position may be the ideal one. Sometimes it's better not to get hyped; I frequently get hyped for an event or new book, only to be disappointed when I finally read it. I just can't help being hyped yet again for Hickman's project...

Rahsaan said...

Guys, is that Hope between Monet and Warren. I kinda hope it's not. LOL. I am psyched that Monet's coming home!

FSaker said...

I thought it was Hope, but it's hard to tell. While the woman seems to be a redhead, her hair could actually be brown and just look red due to the bright lighting over her.

Maybe it's Kitty? Between her and Hope, I'd rather see Hope; Kitty has been too prominent for years... Hope could use some spotlight for a change (plus, another cover in this article shows that Kitty will already be part of these books anyway).