Friday, October 4, 2024

Geoffrey Thorne Talks X-Force

In a recent podcast interview with Traversing the Stars, X-Force writer Geoffrey Thorne elaborated on how the team funds its operations, revealing that several of its members are incredibly wealthy. Forge is "crazy rich—Tony Stark rich. He had an entire plaza in Texas that was like his personal Avengers Mansion or Stark Industries headquarters, complete with holographic floors and floating robot assistants." Forge's inventions and patents have made him very wealthy. He now owns an estate in Montana while retaining his original Texas headquarters.

Elizabeth Braddock (Betsy) is another affluent character in the series. "She’s a peer of the realm, meaning she comes from British nobility. They have estates in Essex and London, and even a lighthouse in Cornwall. She’s definitely wealthy."

Additionally, Sage is "also secretly rich." She's been siphoning money from people who "don’t deserve it" and stacking up cash in multiple bank accounts around the world. With these characters' wealth, X-Force doesn't face financial limitations.

Thorne also discussed Betsy Braddock's powers as Captain Britain and how they've evolved. In terms of Captain Britain and Askani, both are telepaths and telekinetics, each with their own power signatures. For Captain Britain, formerly Psylocke, the butterfly effect that accompanied her telepathy has been retained, though it now mutates depending on her mood and the situation. These visual cues help demonstrate what they can do.

Betsy Braddock’s journey as Captain Britain has been interesting. Initially, she was primarily a telepath with developing telekinetic powers. Through a series of unusual events, she took on the mantle of Captain Britain, a role her brother once held. As Captain Britain, Betsy’s powers now blend magic with her telepathy and telekinesis. She wields a construct shield and sword, and can also perform psychic blasts.

However, creating these constructs requires her to channel the totality of her psionic power, limiting her ability to use other abilities simultaneously. When she’s wielding the constructs, she’s fully engaged in combat. Ironically, it may be more dangerous for her enemies when the constructs aren't visible, as that’s when her full psionic potential is available.

Thorne shared his thoughts on writing Betsy Braddock, particularly after the significant changes she's undergone during the Krakoan era. He expressed a growing fascination with the character, even to the point of considering pitching a solo book for her. While he doesn't have the time or bandwidth for it yet, he finds her compelling because she uniquely combines magic with her mutant abilities—a distinction shared only with characters like Magik and, to some extent, Scarlet Witch.

Captain Britain’s role is magical in nature, appointed to a position in Otherworld, a realm that blends both magic and science. However, Thorne clarified that Betsy doesn’t wield magic in the same way as Doctor Strange, for example. As Captain Britain, she’s more of a magical champion, capable of performing the tasks associated with that mantle. She isn't casting spells like a sorcerer but instead operates almost as if she herself is a magical object. Whoever holds the title of Captain Britain embodies this magical essence.

What Thorne finds particularly intriguing is how Betsy’s magical responsibilities mix with her mutant powers, which are inherently natural and science-based in the Marvel Universe. Mutants have powers by their very nature, and reconciling that with her magical role adds a unique layer to her character.

17 comments:

Rahsaan said...

Now I’m really intrigued. I like Thorne’s ideas and how he is taking lemons (Elizabeth’s Krakoa Era marginalization) to hopefully make lemonade (a new status quo/renaissance) for our grand lady. 💜

I’m fascinated and looking forward to see what he’s got in store.

PoetryInMotion said...

Yeah, I'm ready to drop this book. I don't want magic, I don't want Captain Britain, I don't want any of that Otherworld stuff near her.

randybear said...

Just stick with it for now we haven't see any OW crap or her even in the armor. He knows she's CB but he's not trying to write CB he's shot down many people who kept asking about CB and OW stating this isn't the book for them. He made it clear he wanted to change her identity but editorial said no UGH

Psi-Psi said...

Still don't see Betsy's power as Captain Britain. She can do those simply as a mutant even for flying.

X-Man said...

Ita with @Randybear. Reading between the lines, if one of his first choices was to give her (and Rachel) a new codename, then he's prob not interested in CB much either.

Especially if Tptb said no one wanted to touch CB.

However, it sounds like the same Tptb didn't let him change her codename/status smh (Yet cause I still think he gonna push for it lol),

so he's making the best of having to keep her CB, without making her super magic/ super fantasy oriented like Howard's version.

Trust me, I want no magic or Otherworld either, and Brian to get the title back, but I'll take baby steps lol.

X-Man said...

Agreed @Rahsaan cautiously excited for Betsy's future.

Lady Braddock said...

I absolutely love how GT is a Marvel lore junky. He understands Betsy is more than just a pretty face with killer instinct. She has deep roots with a powerful family heritage. Where some people want Betsy to pivot away from Otherworld, magic, & Captain Britain, GT is leaning into it with a fresh perspective. The fact of the matter is Betsy IS a mutant/ Otherworld hybrid. It’s in her DNA. GT is definitely cooking something up for her & I’m ready for it.

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X-Man said...

I think its because he's using her as primarily a mutant X-Man, not as CB (besides codename).

In other words I think in X-Force she's not actively being CB (mostly cause overall she's vastly unpopular as CB, Tptb know this, and it doesn't seem to fit her personality imo),

but to differentiate her psionic powers from Rachel, the magic she has just from innately being of Otherworld & CB is affecting her mutant powers despite actively not being CB in the field

(and I'm guessing Rachel will prob have more Phoenix like stuff to also make her unique too).

I'm one of those who prefer no magic at all, but he seems to realize she isn't like Dr Strange or anything like that, so I think I'm ok with how he intends to use her.

X-Man said...

I think for me overall I don't like characters oversaturated. And her doing magic quests and being a mutant was too much for me (and I resented her being so ostracized from Krakoa)

I know a lot want Storm to also be magical because of her family background in it as well and I feel the same for her.

I always feel like for me they need to be Mutants first (but that is just me).

I think a lot see Betsy as more grounded like the spy or X-Men etc etc.

I definitely had enough of Otherworld for a very long time lol.

And I think based on what he is saying and what TPTB said about not touching her, they all know she wasn't popular as CB (yet she herself is popular).

I think this sounds promising because it seems like instead of making her go on tales like Dr Strange would (like Howard tried to do), he instead is incorporating it into her mutation and possibly making her an even more unique psi to stand out from Rachel & Kwannon etc etc.

That I think could be something everyone could come to enjoy.

I am very cautiously optimistic:)

HOXOR said...

@Lady Braddock
Exactly, many people didn't like how things turned out with TH (I'm one of them), but I loved having Betsy back in the family business.

Every psychic in the X-Men has something else that sets them apart from just being an X-Men: Jean has the Phoenix, Rachel with the Askani Clan, Emma being the White Queen and involved in the Hellfire Club, Madelyne with the Goblins, etc. Meanwhile, Betsy only served to be an action junkie.

I love her as Captain Britain (even though I don't like the name), being part of something bigger than the X-Men, something that is part of her and her family. There are so many paths for her to follow, so many adventures that can be written, so many characters to be used.

Having GT writing her and incorporating her heritage into the "mutant universe" is simply something really cool to see. I really like the direction she's taking now, even though I miss the butterfly.

But regardless of whether or not she continues with this mantle, it's good to see the character being explored and having her voice back. The Steves did a good job with her in Unlimited and she's now in the hands of, apparently, a good writer. We can only be thankful!

X-Man said...

@Hoxor to be fair she was kinda unique though.

In that even before TK, her psychic powers were able to affect physical objects at times (like Cerebro),

she had psychoblasts (i don't think other psychics had those, but I could be wrong),

she was a precog (which I believe Thorne doesn't like lol),

and she was able to turn her psychic abilities into physical forms like the psychic blades from telepathy and later on swords from TK.

And the physical weapons like the blade were pretty unique, but then they gave those to Kwannon too (and sword) lol.

So I do get her needing something else now to make her stand out more lol.

But I do think the weapons were kinda were the last thing to make her unique before Kwannon entered the picture.

randybear said...

Agreed. What made Betsy stand apart was she was a lethal assassin she would take out enemies without hesitation much like Wolverine. Also the totality of her powers was literally like her line and classic we knew that meant her psychic weapons things the other telepaths weren't doing. Plus the whole proper English woman subverts expectations by making her lethal af. Now she's a boring noble knight... well up until XForce again let's see how this plays out and where Betsy ends up after

X-Man said...

This has really nothing to do with the talks above but dang I feel really stupid lol.

I was rereading the dialog from the last issues and I think Thorne might have been tongue in cheek when Betsy says Rachel attempted a psi-lock on the giant lol.

As in if you say it out loud it sounds exactly like Psylocke lol.

If that was what he was intending, You guys prob got that right away, but totally went over my head lmao.

HOXOR said...

@X-Man @randybear

When it comes to weapons, several psychics (and even magical characters) appear using them: Betsy, Kwannon, Little Jean, Kid Omega, Dani, Scarlet Witch, Saturnyne, etc.

When it comes to psychic signatures, I believe that only Karma is unique, because otherwise they are all the same.

Yes, she was the deadly psychic ninja of the X-Men, but now that "position" belongs to Kwannon. So, whether we like it or not, what really makes her unique is her heritage and even her sexuality.

I understand that the damage caused by TH was immense, but the most idiotic thing can become the coolest thing in the hands of a good writer.

I remember that when she was announced as Captain Britain, most people liked the idea and in the hands of the Steves (despite the same outfit and bad art) the reception was also good. So I think it's a mistake to trivialize the idea of ​​her being Captain Britain, even though I understand the reasons.

It was already a big surprise for me that she is currently in X-Force, thank goodness she is in the hands of a good writer, so instead of complaining I prefer to be grateful. Clearly Marvel wants to keep her with the mantle, so at least she should be well written and GT is doing this job well, even though he can't give her much attention.

X-Man said...

Yay...I asked him on the site if that was an intentional play on words and he confirmed it was.

Glad I caught that on second read lol.

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