EW: X-Men comic fans have been fearing this day, but alas, it has arrived. EW can confirm that Jonathan Hickman, the writer behind the celebrated 2019 comics House of X and Powers of X (illustrated by Pepe Larraz and R.B. Silva) that relaunched Marvel's mutants with a radical new status quo, will be departing the X-Men line after his upcoming Inferno series wraps up.
"Oh, plans have changed entirely," Hickman says. "When I pitched the X-Men story I wanted to do, I pitched a very big, very broad, three-act, three-event narrative, the first of which was House of X. And while this loosely worked as a three-year plan, I told Marvel upfront that I honestly had no idea how long the first part would last because there were a lot of interesting ideas that I had seeded that other creators would want to play with, and so, we left this rather open-ended. I was also pretty clear with all the writers that came into the office what the initial, three-act plan was so no one would be surprised when it was time for the line to pivot."
Hickman continues, "However, I also knew that I was cooking with dynamite, and it was very possible that what I had written in House of X, and the ideas contained within, was not actually the first act of a three-act story, but something that resonated more deeply and worked more like Giant-Size X-Men, where it would represent a paradigm shift in the entire X-Men line for a prolonged period of time. So, during the pandemic, when the time came for me to start pointing things toward writing the second-act event, I asked everyone if they were ready for me to do that, and to a man, everyone wanted to stay in the first act. It was really interesting, because I appreciated that House of X resonated with them to the extent that they didn't want it to end, but the reality was that I knew I would be leaving the line early."
"Marvel doesn't really pay me to just write ongoing monthly books, there's an expectation for me to write bigger books that have a wider reach than that," Hickman tells EW. "In an effort to facilitate both things, we've all spent the last six months or so reorienting the line, me creating Inferno to assist with that, and then bringing in some new writers to add to the existing team, and then plan for the next several years of X-books. So after Inferno, I'll be leaving to go work on my 'Next Big Marvel Thing™' and starting in January the X-Line will rocket forward starting with a weekly series that leads into the very cool, refocused, line of books. Yes, it's taken us a little while to get everything assembled correctly, but the end result — everything that's coming after Inferno — is going to be pretty great."
As it happens, EW has been interviewing Hickman and these collaborators — writers Vita Ayala, Gerry Duggan, Al Ewing, Tini Howard, Benjamin Percy, Si Spurrier, Zeb Wells, Leah Williams, and artist Pepe Larraz — about the past two years of radical new X-Men comics. Check that out below; hopefully it will assuage some of the sadness from Hickman's coming departure.
EW: One of the most popular X-Men characters from recent decades is also one of the most complicated. The mutant telepath Psylocke, a.k.a. Betsy Braddock, started out as the English sister of Brian Braddock, a.k.a Captain Britain. But in 1989, Betsy's mind was transplanted into the body of a Japanese ninja assassin, later established to be a mutant named Kwannon. Despite the complicated situation of a white woman's mind in an Asian woman's body, the resulting character became immensely popular. Psylocke starred not just in X-Men comics, but also video games and even 2016's big-screen blockbuster X-Men: Apocalypse, where she was played by Olivia Munn. Finally, in 2018's Mystery in Madripoor comic by Jim Zub and Thony Silas, both Betsy and Kwannon were returned to their original bodies. But it fell to the new X-writers to reckon with all that baggage, as Betsy took up the mantle of Captain Britain in Excalibur and Kwannon (now taking the name Psylocke in her own right) became the field leader of the Hellions.
TINI HOWARD: That's something that we talked about from the very first X-meeting I was in. Even before we started forming our own stories, we talked about, 'what are some things that are really important to us, some things we want to set up the way they deserve'? One of them was a resolution to that Psylocke situation that wasn't just these two characters fighting until they got along. It was important not just to us creators but to fans, especially Asian fans and all female fans, who felt bothered or hurt by some of the ways that had been handled over its 30 years. Here's this problem that's really tangled and had also become important to people in various ways, so it was really necessary to resolve. This was something I took really seriously, and had my nerves about. But Zeb is incredible as a collaborator, he does such incredible work with Kwannon.
ZEB WELLS: I thought a way I could build off what Tini was doing and honor the character, was to make Kwannon the most compelling character apart from all of that as possible. To show that there was a super interesting tragic character under all of that this whole time.
She gets put into this situation where she has to lead this team and keep an eye on them and become a leader. The goal was to make that as interesting as possible and to make her as defined a character as possible. The Fallen Angels miniseries had taken a great first step, digging into the tragedy of her assassin background. With the brave new world of Krakoa, I thought we had the chance to take all of that together and make a very compelling character.
TINI HOWARD: We just kind of developed these women having these separate fears and thoughts about each other until they could come together. It ends up being extra fun and satisfying because one thing we can do in these books, because we have so many different books going, we can have conversations feel different or look different or include different details. If you read Hellions, you know Kwannon basically had a psychic therapy session where she killed Betsy Braddock a bunch in her mind. I don't think Betsy knows that, I don't think she's supposed to know that. It's not important to her to know that, that was Kwannon's therapy, that was her working through stuff.
Betsy working through stuff was completely different, and she needed Kwannon to help her out of it. It was based on guilt and complicated stuff. Some of that was scary to write, because a lot of it is my own experience being a bumbling white lady. That's an experience I can write about. It's not even like she was being thoughtful about it like 'i'm trying to get out of this,' sometimes you get emotional and you're nervous and you're gonna do something that doesn't make any sense because it brings you some kind of catharsis. No, white lady; get in your portal!
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Has any other fan favorite XMan been treated as poorly as Betsy has this era?
Pretty much all of them, except for Magneto, Xavier, Emma and Apocalypse.
And why Betsy is supposed to have any guilty? She was the victm. And choose not to live by it. Each time she says anything about it gets worse... SHE had issues. Not the character
Yeah, it's frustrating that she keeps insisting in this. Oh well, Excalibur did seem to improve in the past issues, so maybe now that this whole Betsy/Kwannon mess is over Tini will be able to deliver good stories. It's just sad that it took her this long to make Excalibur interesting.
That said, while I like this current X-era, there are other X-Men who were also handled pretty poorly. In Excalibur itself, I'd say Rogue got the worst part, spending nearly five entire issues in a coma and having zero personality after that. In other titles, Iceman was pretty boring in Marauders overall, Jean was boring in X-Force (Beast was a major jerk, but at least he was remarkable in some way), most of the New Mutants didn't do anything noteworthy (I love Chamber's dry sense of humor, but he barely showed it or had anything relevant to do), Young Cable is annoying (and probably not in the way the writers intended)... then again, there were also characters who got very lucky, like Kate, Emma, Storm, Cyclops (and boy, he was needing it), Sinister and most of the Hellions (Kwannon included) and X-Factor.
Anyway, it's sad to know Hickman is leaving and that he may leave without ever writing Betsy in this era. While this article says the other writers will keep his plans rolling, that's not the same thing. Oh well, at least he gave us House of X/Powers of X (such a shame that Betsy wasn't in those miniseries).
I just hope, if the X-books are relaunched after Inferno, that Betsy will be in one book, whether as Captain Britain, Psylocke or whatever. Especially now that Kwannon is available, I fear she may end up being sent to editorial limbo.
Then again, I may stop reading the X-books after Inferno is over, so maybe whether Betsy is still in a book or not won't make a difference to me.
Most Cyclops fans despise the Hickman era tho. From mutant revolutionary leader back to Xavier’s pet boy scout. All Scott did was staying in the kitchen with Jean being a boring father.
Lord, that last part in the interview is beyond cringeworthy and reminds me of Morrison's calling Magneto a "mad, old terrorist twat" after getting him to send humans to gas chambers. Seriously, don't use and abuse a popular character you do not like.
Also, after two years with Hickman behind the helm and zero stories using Psylocke, let's not pretend their decision to completely alter the character three years ago has been an epic failure so far.
There's a difference between a character like Betsy being completely stripped of her identity, personality, competence and anything predated Krakoa.
While characters like Rogue have had little to do at least they weren't drastically altered as Betsy was to accommodate another character.
Would love to see Betsy and Kwannon (in updated costumes) on the same team together after this. Zero guilt and awkwardness, more like warrior sisters with a psychic connection.
Also, Marcus To confirmed on Twitter he’s drawing issue #25 which I’m guessing would be the last issue of Excalibur, coming Nov?
The more I read Hickman’s statement the more I hate it. They really screwed over his original plans because the others shitty X-writers wanted to keep writing their shitty books. Al Ewing is the only good writer left now.
Wow, Kwannon looks awful in this teaser...
And I didn't know that Marvel was changing Kamala's powers... as for Betsy's situation, I agree; I came to terms with the fact that she's not going to be Psylocke again, so I just hope whoever writes her and draws her can make her a Captain Britain that is cool to read. From what some of you guys said, Excalibur #21 finally showed her as a competent leader, someone taking charge in the field, and the team for once looking like they're enjoying each other's company. If this can continue for the next issues, that's great (even if too little, too late).
But hopefully Tini Howard moves on from this whole "white lady" thing. It's good that Marvel is acknowledging that white people have had plenty of privileges in society and that this has harmed other people, but that's a subject that has to be treated with the depth it needs and it doesn't really work in all situations. The way it has been used to analyze Betsy's and Kwannon's situation is extremely shallow, and that's hurting both characters. Both of them have actually been much more interesting to read in the instances where they were able to be themselves rather than pushed into this shallow perception of their body swap.
Its funny how Betsy has to be shamed and devalued for something the character had no control over (also no one ever brings up the fact that an Asian man, Jim Lee, made the ninja design and Claremont just went with it)
But yeah let's not look at fact let's just pretend in fantasy land Betsy has free will and purposely stole an Asian woman's body 🙄
Also Marvel so mad about Betsy being white and rich yet they continue to put the literal WHITE QUEEN Emma Frost on a pedestal
Maybe they feel sorry after what they did to Emma in AvX and later in IvX...
Still, it's like you said; there are plenty of situations where white people should take responsibility, but Betsy's body swap is NOT one of them. She didn't choose to take Kwannon's body (plus, Kwannon also took hers) - in fact, it was Asian men (Mandarin and Matsuo Tsurayaba) who did this to her. No one should consider her guilty.
Exactly. All the Betsy haters who clearly never read the OG story aren't aware of the details like the Hand or Matsuo those plot points have mysteriously disappeared.
Also until Kwannon appeared, Betsy thought it was her own body that was just altered.
FSaker speak truth
Please 🙏 show the exit to Howard and Hickman underlings and make it quick. Betsy was her worst version in HoX Pox.
Betsy walks on thin ice as Captain Britain. Psylocke is the name she is known by. Marvel broke Betsy shamelessly. And I'm not talking ten of swords literally.
Yeah I saw someone on twitter whos reading FA and Excalibur for the first time and he described it as "when Betsy took Kwannons body she made a name of herself" like basically saying Betsy stole Kwannons life and made it her own.
Um.. kwannon was a killer. Identified by Japan as a wanted criminal who murdered for profit. But yeah Betsy thrived the poor Asian woman was robbed. And wtf is the problem? She's alive and in her body and is an instant A-List character. Kwannon fans should thank Betsy lol
@Randy, one clarification regarding Claremont... This whole problematic race swap was his idea and he has publicly said so and specifically pointed out that Lee only drew an Asian Psylocke based on the story that he wanted. Jim gets a lot of flack, but he was a new artist on a trial run doing what he was told by established vets.
https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2018/08/claremonts-consequences-discussing-asian-betsy-in-2018/
Some more on that. This was all Claremont (Jim was just the guy tasked with doing his job and he did it well). It stuck because Claremont never imagined that he and Bob Harras would reach an impasse in their beef and that he would be leaving Marvel back then:
https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2018/08/claremonts-consequences-discussing-asian-betsy-in-2018/
And it was part of a pattern Claremont already had established with race swap stories that appropriated non-white peoples and cultures before Lee was at Marvel.
Speaking of CC id love to know what he would think of Betsy's current status as CB.
Yeah, it's not a secret that this whole mess started with Claremont... and while he had a point that making Betsy look Asian would be desirable for Mandarin so that other crime lords would respect her, well, he could have just given her a full-face mask like the one Sunfire wore in Age of Apocalypse. It would be a much more sensible choice - and maybe it would even look cooler than giving her a race lift and a "ninja" bathing suit.
But what really bothers me in Tini's explanation is that she tried to project her own issues as a "white lady" in Betsy. I know that writers often project their personalities and issues into their characters and stories, and it often makes them much more relatable - for instance, while Claremont's New Excalibur run was a mess, that story where Nocturne has a stroke and has to slowly recover from its effects was great. However, I think that this projection has to be coherent with everything that came before it, and that's not the case.
If she wanted to make Betsy deals with feelings of guilt, she could have used the fact that Betsy has killed people during her time in X-Force (both Logan's and Cable's) and was never punished for that. If she wanted to show how Betsy has had "white people privileges", she could introduce some sort of flashback where Betsy fails to acknowledge some veiled racism that one of her friends (Ororo, Rictor, etc.) may have suffered in front of her and she didn't stop it or even agreed with her friend when they told her about it. Chuck Austen, despite having a terrible run with the X-Men, did approach this subject in a nice way with Nurse Annie calling Iceman out on it.
But I honestly fail to see how the body swap could be seen as Betsy being privileged as a white woman in any way. She wasn't responsible for it (Mandarin, Matsuo, Mojo and Spiral were), and while some people may say that she "thrived on Kwannon's body", one only needs to read the final part of the Acts of Vengeance arc or the issue right after X-Tinction Agenda to find two instances where Betsy clearly expresses that she DOESN'T like what happened to her at all; in fact, she's shown very concerned about it. One could even say that Kwannon actually got favored by the body swap, since it allowed her to wake up from her coma and gave her a way to start fresh from her criminal record - and yes, she was a victim of the body swap... BUT SO WAS BETSY.
I just hope that now that they're back to their original bodies (...well, actually cloned bodies, but they're made exactly like the original bodies) and that the subject was used (in a very wrong way) in both Excalibur and Hellions, both Howard and Wells will move on from it and not touch it ever again. I think both are good writers (I actually loved Wells's New Mutants run, and Tini has managed to deliver some pretty great Excalibur stories whenever she's not projecting her personal issues onto Betsy), but they're clearly not the right people to analyze this situation.
...Wow, that's a really long comment I wrote. Sorry, everyone.
Agreed. The Lady Mandarin armor and that head piece could have included a mask to avoid that. Surprised between he, Lee and the editorial team no one thought to suggest that 😆
Ugh, cringeworthy. The only 'White Lady' that I want to get thrown into a portal, is the "Karen" that has been writing Excalibur this past year and a half. Only a self absorbed, faux conscious, privileged KAREN would take a layered, well developed character and:
1)Strip them of all unique, signature powers and abilities
2)Make them a bumbling idiot who cannot lead
3)Strip them of their unique voice and agency
4)Give their entire life and presence to another character
5)Saddle them with unfair social and cultural baggage
So raise your glass of boxxed wine Tini Howard! You managed to turn Betsy into a nothing character! Not an easy task. Homegirl worked hard to do this!
Remember the time when Betsy/Psylocke was marvel's superhero #1 in Marvel.com back when she was in Uncanny X-Force in the Dark Angel Saga? Tini destroyed that and turned her in Marvel's last superhero.
I agree that woman gets paid to do her best to make Betsy the worst.
Unknown to many Claremont was vetoed by Jim Lee to change Betsy back to white woman. Bob Harras the chief in Marvel gave all the power to the artists and disrespected the writers. Claremont left because of that his creation of Betsy and Psylocke was sold to Jim Lee and his bikini drawing.
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