Wednesday, September 16, 2020

Excalibur #12 Art

10 comments:

randybear said...

I love that To is trying here and there to give us glimpses of the butterfly lol

Toffnut said...

I wish they would give her back the butterfly sig. As much as I am a fan of Psylocke (Kwannon), especially in the current run of Hellions (she's kicking a lot asses), the butterfly has always been Besty's even pre-body swap.

X-Man said...

@Toffnut I agree. Although the same is true of the name Psylocke.

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randybear said...

I like the idea of flower petals being her new signature but its less petals and more how To draws psionic flair. I've seen the petal aesthetic drawn on other characters that To's drawn in Excalibur.

But for the most part Betsy hardly displays psychic energy unless its her sword/shield. She seems like a weak telepath now, really only uses it for communication hardly ever offensively anymore. Plus with the butterfly missing she doesn't appear as strong a force when psychic energy is hardly being drawn compared to say Jean or Emma when they use theirs

Kiki M. Ishola said...

Butterflies are sensitive and beautiful like Betsy. Chris Claremont wanted Betsy's telepathy to be seen as a butterfly based on her delicate mind and personality. Mind control is symbolized with butterflies and Betsy has been mind controlled by many bad people. Mojo gave her the Psylocke name in a historic time for the X-Men. New Mutants led by Magneto, the professor retired, the OG X-Men reformed, the X-Men gone outlaws and mutants hunted down. A delicate butterfly glued back the broken X-Men team, helped save the Morlocks and wounded from Sabretooth, saved Dazzler from Malice, supported Storm in her role as X-leader, helped Rogue with her Carol alter, blew up the Marauders cover, iced the Magistrates, KO'ed Sinister and Goblin Queen and became X-leader for a little to save the lives of the X-Men in Australia.

Marvel pays Betsy back this way. Stealing her progress and history and giving it to a nobody.

Betsy deserves better and this costume is amazing for her new role but wasted on a new generic character.

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Toffnut said...

I understand the decision to give Kwannon the Psylocke moniker and the Jim Lee ninja look. It is purely a commercial decision because most of the media outside of comics (videogames, movies, cartoons) has this version of her, and it is the most recognized visual attached to the name Psylocke.

In an ideal world, Betsy gets to keep the Psylocke title and Kwannon gets her own identity and powerset, but alas it would cause more confusion regarding the Psylocke brand outside of comic books.

This solution keeps the Psylocke brand's commercial viability, solves the racial issue and is a great evolution for both characters.

I am truly happy that Betsy got the Captain Britain title. It feels like this is what her natural evolution should have been from the start (rememeber, she was briefly in the Captain Britain identity even before the name Psylocke was forced upon her by Mojo et. al.). After decades of identity crises, she is finally truly herself.

On the other hand, Kwannon's character also deserves this. Unlike Betsy, she willingly took on the name Psylocke to at least get something back because her autonomy over her body was stolen from her (and Betsy, too, of course). But it was Betsy who lived on and thrived in her body while she was killed off and pretty much forgotten. She's newly re-introduced and I am sure they will make more distinctions between the two characters as time goes on.

I know there are die hard fans of Betsy who feel like everything that has happened recently has been an injustice to her, but I really don't see it that way. She is finally her authentic self, regardless of what codename she adapts.

I am a fan of both Betsy as a character and the Psylocke 90s persona which served as my introduction to her. Now I get both minus the problematic baggage of racial appropriation. I am genuinely happy and feel no need to tear one character down in favor of the other.

Of course, everyone else is entitled to their own feelings on the matter.

randybear said...

I've made my peace with Betsy no longer being Psylocke and oddly I associate that codename with Kwannon now so its whatever.

I'm really passionate about the butterfly because its always been Betsy and her symbol her motif and signature. Always no one else's and people can be upset and tell me to get over it or that its still Betsy etc But where does it end? She loses the codename, the psyknife, the martial arts and the butterfly. They really gutted Betsy literally from XTremists to Excalibur it wasnt something we saw coming and it was a huge shock to see the announcement of all these changes when DoX lineup was announced.

What does she lose next? Her telepathy? Her purple hair? That's all she has left thats remotely distinctive of the character. If these things don't matter. then we have any distinction at all period? Just make her lose the costume she can wear civvies and dye her hair brown right? It would still be Betsy right??

Jaime Braz said...

@randybear we all are gutted by the decision Marvel made to strip Betsy of her iconography and identity to give it to a problematic retcon which gained prominence via sex.

The purple hair and telepathy are important characteristics of Betsy and so is the butterfly signature. Sooner than later Marvel execs will realize it. However they need to be constantly reminded by the fandom for if the fans won't fully support Betsy in her weakest they don't deserve her in her best. Kwannon idolators have to be informed of the history around Betsy's butterfly and learn about the slight.

Kwannon remains a discarded Betsy cloth until her character is free of the body swap repercussions and grudge. The repercussions be the Psylocke mantle, the psionic constructs of Betsy and the butterfly manifestation. She is a character with promise that Marvel refuses to see and utilize because of capitalist hindrances.