Writer: Tini Howard
Artist: Marcus To
Color Artist: Erick Arciniega
Cover by: Mahmud A. Asrar
The Story:
The Secret of Rogue's Coffin! Locked in her mysterious coffin, Rogue dreams. Meanwhile, Apocalypse performs a ritual, and the throne of power changes hands. The reign of mutantkind reaches the Otherworld at last.
24 comments:
Rogue looks gorgeous and I kinda wouldn't mind Pete and Betsy possibly becoming an item. I like the banter between them.
Betsy looks like she is flying
I saw this coming since the beginning : Peter Wisdom (Kitty Pryde's ex) would try to woe Betsy. When is Betsy going to be her own person without a man in her life? She doesn't need a man to be interesting. I hope she stays single for a long period until she establishes herself as her own person without depending on a storyline with a man by her side ( she already had a lot of those actually ) and I don't think she needs one. Anyways, I like her new look as Captain Britain.
Finn people on Twitter have been bugging Tini about giving Betsy a girlfriend. With how woke Marvel is I doubt Betsy will ever have a man as a partner again.
To be fair, I don't think Betsy was ever defined by the men in her life. And I don't see her and Wisdom becoming a couple. A one night stand, on the other hand, is quite possible and I wouldn't mind that - some people may dislike Betsy having affairs with different men (or women in Cluster's case, though Cluster was actually a man in a woman's body), but if male heroes can have affairs with multiple women (Wolverine, I'm looking at you), why can't she? I recently started watching a Netflix series named Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries, and the protagonist has a different affair each episode - and it's not portrayed in a negative way, but rather as an independent woman aware of her right to do what she wants to do.
Anyway, Rogue is back, yay! And she looks gorgeous!
@FSaker, Cluster was not a man in. a woman’s body. Cluster was a woman. We all have masculine and feminine components to our own genders. The parts of Fantomex that were the best parts happened to be feminine so when give a separate identity and body, they resulted in a woman.
I'm not keen on Betsy eating Kitty's sloppy seconds. I prefer Betsy to have relationships with new and untouched characters. Archangel will always be her other half should they live separately or together.
Rogue is a resilient person to which her awakening is no surprise. She will find a way to control the energy she absorbed without changes to her personality.
@Rahsaan your point is correct. Fantomex had a unique brain separated into three smaller divisions that were linked to a mutant external nervous system called E.V.A. Cluster was the female brain lobe with access to E.V.A.
So has it been confirmed that Betsy was deliberately keeping the Kwannon persona under lock and key while sexing up Warren, Neal, Hercules, Sabretooth, Cluster, Fantomex and murdering the shit out of ton of people? Or was Betsy unaware of her presence? Also, if Kwannon was there, was she tethered to Betsy? For instance, when Vargas killed Betsy, did her soul going to the afterlife take Kwannon’s with it? And the same upon retuning thanks to Jamie? And when the Sisterhood took Betsy out of Kwannon’s body and put her back on her own, did Kwannon come along for the ride, and that’s why Kwannon’s body was just left drooling strapped to that table? Or was Kwannon still in that body below the surface and that’s how it stayed alive while Betsy joined the Sisterhood in her own body again? So many questions that I doubt will ever be answered. 😂
Also, y’all want Bets to be alone, but Pete Wisdom and her have chemistry. And I dig it. Even if they never do the deed I dig their tension.
@Jaime, to be fair,Kitty ate Betsy’s sloppy seconds first as Betsy was shagging Bobby during the Age of X, which reminds me that Kwannon must have been aware of that too as it was still her body even though Jamie reshaped reality so that it appeared as if it was Bets’ body.
Kwannon was repressed in Betsy's psique all that time Betsy wants to apologise or explain but Kwannon is really pissed at her so she dismissed her . She felt trapped all that time in Her own body by Betsy's consciousness unable to take control of herself for decades. But I guess Betsy was unaware of this the whole time and Kwannon thinks it was intentional.
Betsy has telekinetic powers wiht Wich she can create a lot of stuff with : katanas, bows, medieval weaponry , etc. So I think if there's a woman in Marvel that can actually satisfy herself without a man is her. So I don't get why she always needs a man in her bed. Why she's so codependent for sexual relationships. I wish she was more independent and strong enough to be without men.
She has been without men most of her existence I would say. All the X-Women have had relationships and many. Not sure why Betsy’s desire for companionship makes her any less strong then them.
She’s been single for like the last 6 years since she broke up with Cluster during Humphries’ 2013 X-Force run. It is now 2020. She has periods of being unattached and periods of being attached to a lover. That is normal. What’s with all the hyperbole about her constantly being “dependent on a man?” All the major X-characters have romantic situations that begin and end periodically throughout their publication histories.
@Finn the relationship of Betsy and Tom Lennox was the least toxic and very stable until death did them part. Imagine a human experiencing telepathically the death of its partner and the process of dying while remaining alive. Betsy didn't fully recover from that shock and she wanted to feel alive by being desired and loved. Some people want to recreate the memory of a lost love by using substitutes.
Warren is to me the best substitute for Betsy because he lost Candace Southern his childhood friend and lover tragically and saw her get resurrected and killed again by the same worst friend turned enemy Cameron Hodge. Betsy and Warren are haunted by the shadow of death and both have rage in them that is hard to control so when they are together the pain is bearable.
@Rahsaan I prefer to think that when Betsy borrowed the souls energy trapped in Sapphire Styx she didn't only recreate her biological body she also pulled Kwannon from the afterlife and put her in her body. That or the crimson dawn pulled Kwannon from the dead to operate her body. I'm still wanting the crimson dawn to return and give something unique to the Psylocke clone.
The thought of Betsy living in a stranger's body is already filthy and disgusting let alone be living sandwiched with the said body's owner shoved in the back of her own brain. After all Bryan Hill's explanation contradicts the death of Kwannon in Betsy's body by the legacy virus in the 90s where she gave Betsy's half soul and powers back via Tsurayaba before perishing thus piecing Betsy's psyche back together in the wrong body. The shadow of Kwannon terrorizing Betsy in the Sisterhood arc was the nightmare of the body swap Betsy finally managed to overcome like fighting the boogeyman not the actual soul.
They are trying to retcon her into sharing the body, forgetting that Jaime created a nu body from scratch, with no hint of Kwannon, especially after you know Revanche was alive at the time.
Also, Cluster is a part of Fantomex, to deny it is weird. They are one and the same. When Cluster poofed, she was back in Fantomex. So, in essence, she was her own woman when she had a body, but she is/was Fantomex. I know Psylocke has a lot of LGBTQ fans. But it seems they want every X-man to be LGBTQ. She hasn't shown the slightest interest in women since Cluster 6 years ago our time.
What they did was try to sex up an already over sexed-up character. Another reason that writer shall not be named. He also tried to retcon her into being 16 when she gained her powers, and Brian her twin as already being the Captain. He didn't become the Captain until 24, and She didn't get powers until 26, and wasn't a mutant.
@Tazirai Sam Humphries lists high in the ranks of the damned writers circle. The top worst being Fabian Nicieza who complicated Betsy's Asian makeover into the Kwannon problem. Scott Lobdell for suicidal and morose Betsy, uninspired Chris Claremont for Revolution, X-treme X-Men and Exiles, Mike Carey for Necrosha, and Bryan Edward Hill (technically writing a Psylocke ripoff).
Thanks for reminding us Jamie was behind Betsy's resurrection and cleansed all the black magic and DNA splicing that Spiral did on Betsy. Betsy was immune to magic and mind control after Jamie brought her back to life.
I support your sex up comment. The decision to make Betsy bisexual don't chime in at all with her personality. In the case Betsy hooks up with another female that woman has to be a butch to elevate Betsy's femininity and beauty.
What I mean is that I don't like it when writers treath her as a sexual trophy for men. That's all. Like when they paired her with AoA Sabertooth, randomly with Hercules where he didn't even remembered he had sex with her or when she had a one night stand with a member from Kiss back in the 90's. I wish she was written less promiscuous. That's my opinion.
Personally Warren and Betsy's relationship is my favorite for her.
I always kinda shiped her with Ororo.
@Rahsaan, thanks for the clarification about Cluster!
As for Betsy's sex life, I'm okay with it. Well, having sex with Cable's clones may have been a little too much (then again, I guess Spurrier did it intentionally to show how broken she was, just like all the other X-Force members), but other than that, it's fine. It would bother me if she got pictured as someone else's girlfriend and nothing else, but even in Betsy's worst times, her personality was always highlighted and she was never pictured as less important than her lovers (if anything, some of her lovers were pictured as less important than her, like Fantomex, Cluster and AoA-Sabretooth).
And while everyone here hates him, I must admit Fantomex was my favorite romantic partner for Betsy (back in Remender's run, when he had a noble heart behind his jerk façade). Shame that they ended on very bad terms with each other, but that often happens in real life, so why not on comics, eh?
By the way, there's no need to freak out about Betsy and Pete Wisdom yet; so far they're just being sarcastic at each other. For all we know, he may not even appear again in this book after this issue.
Plus, Excalibur is being written by a woman; I don't think Howard would ever portray Betsy as someone defined by her relationships.
@Finn there are two different views on Betsy's sex life.
First views Betsy as an independent woman in charge of her relationships. Betsy in the Outback era was attracted to Havok and she entered his room and mind which Alex found aggressive and intrusive to why he didn't approve of Betsy as new leader of the X-Men. In the Revolution era she grew distant to Warren and started flirting with the newcomer Neal Shaara in the presence of her boyfriend Warren.
Important is to stress that in the 90s Betsy's personality was shaken to its core by the body swap and the Spiral/Mandarin brain conditioning. Betsy couldn't control in her psyche the Kwannon parasite that had promiscuous tendencies evident in the love triangle of Nyorin/Kwannon/Tsurayaba. Some obscenity of Kwannon affected Betsy's mind.
The second view is that Betsy is the trophy for men and women partners. This side of the coin hasn't footing because the one who initiates the flirting is mostly Betsy.
The division comes from Chris Claremont who was torn on how to define Betsy. At times he wanted her as a damsel in distress and totally victimized and then as a strong heroine without taboos.
The two instances where Betsy isn't a trophy in her relationships are with Tom Lennox and Warren Worthington III. With Tom Lennox Betsy had a healthy and balanced relationship where both were equal. With Warren Betsy was his soul's keeper and safeguard against his death persona while Warren was a tether for Betsy not to succumb to the Lady Mandarin programming.
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