PSYLOCKE | CAPTAIN BRITAIN // like a butterfly: Age of X-Man: NextGen #5 Advance Preview

Monday, June 3, 2019

Age of X-Man: NextGen #5 Advance Preview

49 comments:

BMS said...: The only time she looked good in this series; June 3, 2019 at 12:07 PM
randybear said...: Butterfly signature looks great here. Too bad it now belongs to Kwannon; June 3, 2019 at 12:19 PM
Rahsaan said...: @BMS, that's, because she isn't drawn to look like a child here. Do we know who drew the image above?

I really don't understand why they chose Jeanty to draw such a dark, cerebral series. His art style would go better on something involving Mojo and X-Babies or Nanny and Oprhan Maker. All characters, I hope to never see in Marvel again.; June 3, 2019 at 12:21 PM
Rahsaan said...: I actually miss the power signature that Alan Davis drew when Psylocke first joined. The one that was sometimes yellowish/whitish. She actually looks way more lethal here and her astral self is super cute.

https://www.google.com/search?q=x-men+213+psylocke&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsrtnj1c3iAhXlYN8KHXXdDucQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=613#imgrc=EFOJMYzoz9TbXM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=psi+self+xmen+213&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWwbao1s3iAhXKm-AKHYVdBwQQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=613#imgrc=QROgdLKSOhpo7M:

https://www.google.com/search?q=psi+self+xmen+213&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWwbao1s3iAhXKm-AKHYVdBwQQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=613#imgrc=uoPu_45tTZSWhM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=psi+self+xmen+213&rlz=1C1GCEV_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWwbao1s3iAhXKm-AKHYVdBwQQ_AUIECgB&biw=1280&bih=613#imgrc=bsTIrfa6ojrz6M:

https://www.xplainthexmen.com/2015/07/as-mentioned-in-episode-65-the-mutant-massacre-part-1/31_uxm213/

https://lowbrowcomics.com/2015/04/09/wolverine-vs-sabertooth-2/; June 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM
randybear said...: According to the solicits (if they didn't change) it's artist Simone Buonfantino.; June 3, 2019 at 1:39 PM
Lex said...: @Rahsaan,
I agree, Jeanty was the wrong person for this series. His work on the Buffy TV adaptation was a horrible fit also. Especially considering that they needed no budget or censoring in comic format & the blood & violence increased a lot. I always felt he'd have been better suited for Gen-X or Teen Titans.
I loath events & crossovers, especially right after they said they were relaunching Uncanny (before this upcoming Hickman reboot). However I'm surprised at how mentally intimate this mini as been. I always like when writers take time to get into characters heads.; June 3, 2019 at 5:22 PM
Benjamin Hutton said...: They finally got her hair the right colour.

She can't be back in her proper uniform fast enough for me.; June 3, 2019 at 6:24 PM
Anonymous said...: she looks awesome - glad she doesn't look like a child like the other art in this series; June 3, 2019 at 9:47 PM
bblackorchidd said...: I hope this outfit and iteration disappears into the Milky Way and never comes back once this series is over.
Disappointing; June 4, 2019 at 12:06 AM
randybear said...: Lmao fair enough 😂; June 4, 2019 at 12:44 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: Butterfly signature - thumbs up
Hair color - thumbs up
Aesthetic - thumbs up
Posture - thumbs up
Costume rendition - thumps up

Simone Buonfantino props to you.; June 4, 2019 at 7:44 AM
FSaker said...: This art looks great!

As for the art in X-Tremists... well, I still need these books to be released in my country to fully appreciate them, but could the art style choice be intentional? I mean, yeah, the things they do and the subjects they face are quite heavy, but on the surface the Department X presents to the AoXM citizens an image of kindness, even sweetness. So maybe the idea was to present the story with a cute art to contrast it with the underlying creepiness in the story, like some music acts from Japan (Babymetal, FEMM, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu) and South Korea (Dreamcatcher, LOONA) occasionally do?

Or maybe it was really just a bad choice. I don't know.; June 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Rahsaan said...: @FSaker, I so appreciate you, your magnanimity, and your glass half full outlook. I think you are giving the powers that be way too much credit. I sincerely doubt they made this choice in art style to be ironic.; June 4, 2019 at 1:32 PM
randybear said...: So much great artist talent was wasted on Gold & Blue. where are they? Lol; June 4, 2019 at 1:36 PM
Rahsaan said...: @Unknown, I'm a major Buffy/Angel fan. haven't read the books, but I've seen his art on them online. Not a fit for that content. We're on the same page. As for Dept. X., UI feel like Jerome Opena would have been a great fit for this series or Fiona Staples who draws Saga. or even Todd McFarlane or many of the artists here:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEV_en&q=dark+comic+book+art&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEwNiz2NDiAhWhiOAKHbWxCToQsAR6BAgCEAE&biw=1280&bih=646#imgrc=zVfotuvkeJm3nM:; June 4, 2019 at 5:44 PM
Lex said...: @Rahsaan,
The funny thing is he was the main artist on all of the Buffy seasons. If certain characters didn't have certain hair colors or styles you wouldn't be able to tell Buffy from Faith, Dawn from Kennedy or Willow from Vi. When the series was announced I hoped Karl Moline would do the art. His work on Fray was great. He's obviously influenced a bit by Joe Madureira but the characters still looked human & had different facial features.

OMG I would sacrifice an X kid to get Fiona Staples on a book with Besty in it.; June 4, 2019 at 11:59 PM
Renegade X said...: @Kiki M... totally agree. Anyone going to pick up Uncanny X-Men 19 this week, I heard its VERY juicy information.; June 5, 2019 at 3:03 PM
Benjamin Hutton said...: It's not. More terrible writing and out of character characters.

This time it's Emma's turn to get ruined.

The only thing Psylocke related is Kwannon shows up in the final panel.

So it looks like next issue will be a throwdown between the two psychics (I'm assuming).

Does Kwannon not get covered here?; June 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM
FSaker said...: Unless Kwannon became a powerful telepath after her bizarre resurrection (I assume she didn't), she'd be thrashed in a psychic confrontation against Emma.

Then again, judging from the spoilers I read from that issue, Emma wouldn't really have a reason to fight Kwannon or Logan (only to defend herself); if anything, she may be glad they appeared to help her fight her captors.; June 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM
Rahsaan said...: @FSaker,

Kwannon wins if she slices Emma's head off before she can engage telepathically or turn to Diamond. Otherwise, you are right. LOL.

At some point, I will need for Nothing to take her hooded mask off and tell us what all she recalls and why she is fighting with the X-Men, including partaking in vengeance missions that have absolutely nothing to do with her.; June 6, 2019 at 4:12 PM
Anonymous said...: the Emma dialogue seemed so awful to me in Uncanny #19....art wasn't good either; June 6, 2019 at 7:06 PM
randybear said...: It's so yucky how Kwannon is being shoe horned here like shes a beloved old ally of everyone's. Its just a lazy way for the editors to assimilate "ninja Psylocke" into the team's alongside "original psylocke"

I wouldn't be shocked if Kwannon was Mary sue next issue and kicked Emma's ass when we all know Betsy would never be allowed to overpower Emma.; June 6, 2019 at 7:08 PM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: Nothing hasn't the abilities to overpower Emma Frost. Her powers are empathy and naked booty. She steals the butterfly effect from Psylocke and her psychic knife to stay relevant. She deserves a middle finger for dullness and theft.

Betsy is the mutant with the power to create psychic weapons and psychic blasts the way Cyclops and Havok blast enemies not Nothing. Rosenberg has no effin clue what he is writing about. The sooner he leaves the X-Men alone the better.

No way Kwannon is alive in that body. She died long ago to get reanimated because comics and waifu pandering. That is a corpse which thinks it is something but nah.; June 6, 2019 at 7:31 PM
randybear said...: That would be bizarre if it was just a reanimate corpse because how would that contribute to Asian culture?

"Oh hey we brought back the Asian body but it has no identity and cant contribute anything in regards to Japanese culture."

Which confirms to me this isnt about WE NEED ASIAN REPRESENTATION because if it were she wouldn't be a shell of a person. I wish they would've just ditched the body all together and given characters like Karma, Surge, Sunfire etc their due time to shine and stand alongside the xmen as they are all characters that have been around and have established backgrounds in regards to their family and culture

What's the argument with Kwannon? What in the world does she contribute or has contributed? She was a yakuza assassin (ALL JAPANESE ARE EITHER NINJAS OR YAKUZA CRIMINALS) And a submissive sex toy for Matsuo (ALL JAPANESE WOMEN ARE SUBMISSIVE)

I don't care if people cant get over the Asian body but dont argue me that it's because it's about representation because it's not its 100% aesthetic; June 7, 2019 at 12:51 PM
randybear said...: btw kiki this wasnt directed at you lol just venting at those claiming she is culture representative of Japanese and shes nothing but a stereotype; June 7, 2019 at 12:52 PM
Rahsaan said...: @randybear and @kiki,

Even Kwannon's ethnicity as an insertion into Elizabeth's lore is problematic. When Psylocke was altered to be Asian, she was supposed to be Chinese specifically as the Acts of Vengeance arc took place in China. I often believe that Nicieza at the time just thought that Japanese was interchangeable in his lack of research when he made the unnecessary retcon to "correct" what he thought was Claremont's oversight. I could be wrong, but I doubt I am.

Even Davis and Claremont have said as much when interviewed.

Claremont
CN: Okay. I guess, first of all, did you discuss the idea with Jim Lee? Because he was drawing it, as an Asian artist. Did it come up, as a subject for …

CC: Well, not really because that was a fill-in arc. That was almost, in a way, his audition art to take over the series. So it was a self-contained, three-part story, that would lead up to his, you know to his taking over Uncanny and then spinning off into X-Men. But … the rationale for it was… We were going to have, as the villain of the piece, the Mandarin. And the Mandarin, being very … China-centric, at a time when China was negotiating with Britain for the hand-back of Hong Kong.

So the idea of him using an Occidental—pardon me, a pompous phrase—lackey, kind of made no sense. On the other hand, throwing in Mojo, to kind of muck things up, was fun. You know, I was establishing all the elements in terms of the relationships between Brian and Betsy, and their big brother, so I just wanted to—I wanted to establish her absolutely as, “this was the Betsy I had in mind, back when we started.” The idea of her being—she was the one who was, she’s the first-born, by, like, five minutes— she’s the one who always wanted to be the superhero. The hero. Brian was the bookish, pipe-smoking one. And … the whole point of the first issue was to get her to the stage where she comes back as Lady Mandarin.

Davis
I have no idea exactly why Betsy/Psylocke was changed. Her transformation into an oriental (No one at Marvel was ever able to give a definite ethnicity) Elektra clone removed any connection to her original incarnation so she may as well have been a totally new character. In Captain Britain, Betsy was established as the perhaps cliché British Lady heroine whose poise, frills and decorum hid a capable and dangerous ‘strong’ female— not unlike Purdey in the New Avengers TV series or Lady Penelope in Thunderbirds. Her costume and attitude in X-men was supposed to play to that conceit and to be a deliberately uncomfortable fit. Sadly, the idea of character diversity has been lost to homogenization and the notion all characters must be sexy or ‘kewl’.; June 7, 2019 at 1:17 PM
Rahsaan said...: Especially, interesting is Alan's remark on uniform choice:

"In Captain Britain, Betsy was established as the perhaps cliché British Lady heroine whose poise, frills and decorum hid a capable and dangerous ‘strong’ female— not unlike Purdey in the New Avengers TV series or Lady Penelope in Thunderbirds. Her costume and attitude in X-men was supposed to play to that conceit and to be a deliberately uncomfortable fit."

I think the new uniform she has in Uncanny is more like this than any of the uniforms she had during her time inside Kwannon's body. I would love to see more of this played up again as Elizabeth was very fashionable in Marvel UK and when she first came to the X-Men and up until the Siege Perilous drama.; June 7, 2019 at 2:42 PM
PoetryInMotion said...: @Rahsaan

Not to be confused with another war debate on the body switch, but I'd like to raise a point in regards to your first paragraph. Before Adjetiveless X-Men came out in 1991, I don't think it was ever stated that Psylocke's race had been changed to resemble more that of Chinese peoples than Korean or Japanese. And as far as I recall, before Nicieza, when Lee was still doing both the script and the art for the book, Beast called Betsy "Japanese-by-way-of-Britain".

I'm not excusing Nicieza's involuntary retcon, but Claremont has always had a bad habit of explaining things in his interviews rather than the books he writes.; June 7, 2019 at 4:04 PM
Rahsaan said...: In addition to wanting Natalie Dormer as Psylocke in the MCU, I want Also, I want Freema Agyeman as M.; June 8, 2019 at 12:53 AM
Rahsaan said...: And mad props to @Jewel for replying on Facebook with the best casting choice ever... Kiki Layne as Storm!!!🖤; June 8, 2019 at 2:26 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: @randybear don't sweat it! I know your intentions are good and justified. Nothing or Kwannon was the plot device for Psylocke to become offensively cool. Nothing has no other use existing in the X-Men comics other than closing the traps of enraged ninja waifu lovers who don't care about the Yellowface shame she brought to Betsy's life.

Real Japanese representation are Sunfire, Daken, Armor, Sunpyre, Surge, Norio and Zero/Kenji Uedo who I want to see reformed and a full X-Man. We know little about those characters and they deserve fame. Jubilee, Nature Girl, Sprite, Xorn, Nightshade, Hexadecimal and Sway are super Chinese mutants who don't get respected.; June 8, 2019 at 8:59 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: @Rahsaan I won't give free pass and remission for crimes Claremont did on Betsy. It was dark and awful to defile Betsy's body and soul and then exit Marvel leaving behind Betsy alone in a dangerous and tragic state. He could've had the kindness if not decency to pay respect to the character he created and end her body swap torture on the spot before he left. Double that when he returned later for a second run and killed Psylocke without restoring her to her White body with a soul and body resurrection.

Natalie Dormer for Psylocke, Freema Agyeman for M and Kiki Layne for Storm are dope castings. Push Marvel to make it true. I'm not excited only because I share the same name with Layne.; June 8, 2019 at 9:08 AM
PoetryInMotion said...: Dangerous and tragic state? She literally became one of the most popular and beloved Marvel characters thanks to the Acts of Vengeance story.; June 8, 2019 at 11:02 AM
Rahsaan said...: @Kiki, I will do what I can to get those casting choices to
Marvel.

Regarding Claremont, we cannot blame him entirely. To be honest, I love Betsy in her own body and I also love the original AOV story and his orginal
plan for it and her where there was just one body and no messiness. It definitely was problematic like his other race swap stories, but I especially like the first issue with the dream sequence of Psylocke having to kill all her loved ones and deconstruct her whole life with Spiral and Mojo encouraging her along the way. I thought it was very abstract and surreal way to show what was happening to her as she was brainwashed and to show what Mojo and Spiral were physically doing to her off-panel for the Hand.

As for Claremont killing her, that was deliberate and his ultimate plan was to bring her back restored in her own body, but Marvel made him replace her with Rachel Summers in that story.; June 8, 2019 at 11:25 AM
Rahsaan said...: I think if and when Marvel decides to turn Kwannon into something more than a shell of a 90s Psylocke and delve into her story and completely separate her from Bets, then we can all move on from discussing Psylocke and her bodies. Unfortunately, thus far on the Rosenberg story, Kwannon is portrayed as en empty killing machine. We haven’t even seen her face yet and I think that is deliberate in making het seem like “Nothing.” I really hope they do something with her soon other than having her be “Fake Betsy” as Alex called her. Like @randybear said, they are not trying to progress the character other than her being a stand-in for 90s Locke and that disservices both characters.; June 8, 2019 at 11:29 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: @Rahsaan I think more grounded and emotional blame it on estrogen. What was done to Betsy as an entity shocks me. I feel the characters while reading them like they were real people. To stand there and read her living a waking nightmare and losing her soul and identity was painful without to be able to help her fight it and turn normal.

When she attacked her family and friends it was another cut and spit from Claremont. By her transformation to a slutty ninja with death cravings she was reduced to a joke not OP hero.

The worst was he created the new character Kwannon useless from the get go to be a new skin for Betsy who lost her decorum facade you explained so well. If they kept the regal frills and evolved Psylocke's fighting persona with swords and shields that would be progress not the body swap. It shows lack of faith for Psylocke from Claremont's side to alter her drastically and not built on top of what he initially created.; June 8, 2019 at 12:24 PM
Renegade X said...: @Kiki "The worst was he created the new character Kwannon useless from the get go to be a new skin for Betsy who lost her decorum facade you explained so well. If they kept the regal frills and evolved Psylocke's fighting persona with swords and shields that would be progress not the body swap. It shows lack of faith for Psylocke from Claremont's side to alter her drastically and not built on top of what he initially created." Definitely agree with it, separate them and show their individually more better.; June 8, 2019 at 1:45 PM
PoetryInMotion said...: If they are serious about moving Psylocke forward, then what they need to do is show that she can bring her experience as the Hand's premier assassin into her original body, but, considering how the X-offices are staffed as of now, the chances of that are slim to non-existing and this is why I'm hoping that what happened in Mystery in Madripoor is reversed ASAP. It's embarrassing how the esteemed posters who bitch about "Rasizm!!!!111!!!!111!11" ad nauseam every single time Asian Psylocke is brought up curiously forget to note that this new sword and shield baggage only perpetuates the ignorant notion that only Asians can be taught Asian martial arts.

Kwannon should be thrown into character limbo or a writer should make it as if it isn't realy her that is in control of Betsy's previous body; just what the hell was Zub even thinking?; June 8, 2019 at 2:06 PM
Jaime Braz said...: @Kiki M. Ishola Absolutely right. It is not because you are a woman that the body swap frustrates and horrifies you. Let us not bring gender division to matters of logic. Every mentally healthy and sensible person will see Psylocke's torture the way you try to convey it via her 90's hardships.

The fans of Yellowfacing and ninja objectification can't accept the tragedy of losing pieces of yourself. Thus they praise the Yakuza strength and sex appeal as added traits to a fragile yet noble and courageous British woman. In other words they are blind to the emotional aspect and see whatever their monomania chooses to see.

The best future for Psylocke and Kwannon is to be themselves again and live their separate lives to the fullest the way they want not the way some obsessed fans demand. Or else the Yellowface stigma will never die out and perpetuate itself in fan art, video games and variants.

Until the dust of Psylocke and Kwannon separation settles there will be objections however if Marvel chooses to shove Psylocke back into Kwannon then definitely Psylocke will become the ultimate body snatcher and Yellowcringe meme circulating all over the web.; June 8, 2019 at 3:09 PM
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Jaime Braz said...: @PoetryInMotion I pray your condition doesn't worsen enough to start sending death threats in Jim Zub's mail for finally doing what Chris Claremont should have done 20 years ago. Restore Elizabeth Braddock in her original body and allow her to live happy and free just like Kwannon in her own respective body. I wish you a good day and many calm and enlightened to come your way.; June 8, 2019 at 5:36 PM
Renegade X said...: Wishful thinking it would be nice for Kwannon to have a dragon or dragonfly symbol. Its not that I love her more then Betsy. I like both equally and they should at least met up again since they both back in each others originally bodies.; June 9, 2019 at 1:36 AM
Jaime Braz said...: @Renegade X I'm excited that Betsy became a lady knight and evolved from a frail girl hearing voices and seeing visions to a warrior similar to the story of Joan of Arc. In every panel the villains referred to her as the psi-witch so it is natural to enter the next level which is retaliation.

It is wiser Kwannon stays clear of dragons and insects using kabuki fashion. Masks and face painting promote Japanese culture and originality. Powerwise Kwannon can manipulate emotions like a kanji color trap with aura glowing around her and her victim depending on the emotion she uses.

Martial arts don't need to dominate Asians because Psylocke inside of Kwannon's body was a ''Nip'' stereotype, an Asian body with kung fu expertise and katanas. White Americans Danny Rand as Iron Fist, Matt Murdock and Stick, the Greek character Elektra Natchios, Blade, Misty Knight and Natasha Romanova were heroes to break the Asian exclusiveness in martial arts.; June 9, 2019 at 6:55 AM
Rahsaan said...: @Poetry,
I don’t mind if you debate me. You’re always super respectful and intellectual in your style, so I appreciate you. And you make a salient point about Claremont here. The only thing that he did say in issue 256 was the line from Mojo: We can’t have a Westerner running Hong Kong’s underworld, which along with the entire story being set in China is only an implication, so I have to agree with you that Claremont could have been more express.

http://clarmindcontrol.blogspot.com/2013/05/see-psylocke-control-minds-while.html?m=1; June 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: PoetryInMoisture you ignore established continuity about Psylocke from 1976 to 1990. Betsy was already powerful when she was white.

Stop playing second fiddle psychologist to know what Betsy was thinking after her brain was invaded and raped by the Mandarin, Matsuo and Spiral. It was a mental gang bang against Psylocke with magic and science so don't glorify mental and carnal abuse in this forum.

Crying wolf begging the webmasters like a spoiled child won't change that Marvel noticed the problematic race swap and cared to undo and fix it.

Do you remember the history of Betsy as a charter pilot, agent and super model? Does Black Widow ring a bell to you? A mutant Black Widow who Betsy was before she was wrapped in ninja diapers and yellow paint. Just sayin' so you see it too.; June 9, 2019 at 11:51 AM
Rahsaan said...: @Kiki, I didn’t realize Natalie was 37. She looks young now, but you’re correct that she might not be as youthful a decade into the MCU X-Men films. How about Margot Robbie instead for Psylocke?; June 9, 2019 at 8:20 PM
Rahsaan said...: Actually it was Jewel on Facebook who
noted she may not be as youthful in a decade, which is true. They should cast young. I think Margot would be more suitable.; June 9, 2019 at 9:47 PM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: Betsy to me is polite and serious a personality also saucy in a British way killing with kindness. Dormer has Betsy's qualities however old may be. Talent is a winner over age in movies and with a good adaptation based on the cast and story an easy success.

Eleanor Worthington Cox is a good future Betsy until the space Eternals phase of the MCU is over. Marvel will wait for the stench of Singer-verse and Kinberg flops to clear. Eleanor will be old enough by then.; June 10, 2019 at 11:11 AM
Kiki M. Ishola said...: On a second thought a Captain Britain movie can happen before the X-Men are introduced to the MCU so Eleanor can play a young Betsy and grow up with her brother Brian on screen. Peggy Carter has name dropped the twins' father in the Avengers Endgame which should have made headlines. This way Psylocke's origins will be fleshed out in detail.

Margot has burned her cards playing Harley and she acts capricious to be Betsy. She could be Emma Frost but she has a sweet face for a vicious woman like Emma.; June 10, 2019 at 11:18 AM

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