AiPT!: Here’s X-Men Senior Editor Jordan D. White with answers to your X-Force #14, Hellions #6 and Cable #6 questions.
AIPT: Why can’t Jamie Braddock just resurrect characters like Betsy and Gorgon who died in Otherworld for the X-Men? He’s been shown to resurrect characters before.
Jordan: Great question. I mean, I guess he could. Jamie has been shown to definitely be able to bring people back from the dead. I mean, I think he did it in Excalibur when Brian died for a moment there. Although that was more of a resuscitating–a death of someone who just died through reality warping means rather than fully bringing back a person who’s been dead. First of all, that might be splitting hairs. But second of all, he’s also been shown, if I’m remembering correctly, to literally create people from scratch. Just be like, “Hm, there’s a person now. Aha. I’m crazy.” I don’t know that that’s the same thing for the people of Krakoa in the sense that–well, it all gets into the question of why they come back differently and what it is that has changed and affected them. I think even among the writers of the X-Office it’s been a discussion.
You have slightly different theories and they all add up to the same thing because, you know, what happens happens. But the why is a bit of a mystery at this point, and I’m not sure that we’re going to fully define it. That said, something happens, right? So if we’re saying that if a mutant dies in Otherworld and they get brought back through resurrection, which is a means that Krakoa is fully on board with and believes in. I’m sure there are people who have their doubts. I’m not saying that every person is 100% onboard. But generally speaking, Krakoa is fully on board with and believes that this resurrection process brings back the person down to their essence and what makes them them. Right?
But Otherworld interferes with that. Then I think that that would open up questions about the process that we all are subscribing to brings them back differently and this other process would bring them back normally, is it the same thing? Like would that Betsy that Jamie makes from scratch be the real Betsy if bringing back the real Betsy through the means that we have said would bring back the real Betsy doesn’t bring back the real Betsy, do you know what I’m saying? Is whatever that thing is that got messed up by her dying in Otherworld, is that essence in the version that Jamie makes or not? Definitely I know I can’t say the answer in an interview because the best place to answer that is in the comics. And at least to some extent, that conversation will come up.
AIPT: I was listening to your recent appearance on the Cerebro podcast and it reminded me how much you love the original Excalibur run, which X of Swords has been compared to. As an editor and a fan, how does it feel to have brought a little of that magic you loved so much growing up to modern comics?
Jordan: It feels great. Although, first thing I want to say is I don’t want to take all the credit. In the same way that I don’t stop people from using characters I don’t like, I also don’t force them to use characters. Obviously, if we’re putting together an ops team and there’s a question of who should be on it, I can go, “You know who’d be good? Sage.” Like, yeah, that’s because I think about Sage and I like Sage, but I didn’t say to Ben, “You have to use Sage.” He went, “Oh, that’s a good idea.” And then he used Sage. And the same is true for this. It’s not like I was like, “Well, guys–the clock’s ticking, when are we getting to Saturnyne?”
But with Tini and Jonathan, these are characters that they’re into as well. Like I’m not the only person in the X-Office who loves classic Excalibur, not by a long shot. So I’m thrilled that the folks that I’m collaborating with love it as much as I do and want to bring it into things in the same ways that I do. But it feels terrific. Because it’s definitely something I thought about a lot–what makes Excalibur Excalibur, and is it possible to preserve that while still being part of the X-Men line? Because, you know, the most Excalibur Excalibur things that existed were very separate from X-Men. They took place in a time when the entire team of Excalibur thought the X-Men were dead for most of it. And then even when they found out, for another 20 something issues, they still didn’t really incorporate into ongoing X-Men continuity that much.
And I mentioned on the Cerebro podcast that when they’re fully integrated into X-Men continuity, I thought, “Oh, this is going to be great.” But I ended up being real disappointed because it ended up robbing Excalibur of so much of what made it special. So how to keep Excalibur feeling Excalibur is something we’ve definitely thought about. So far, I think it’s going well and I’m thrilled to be able to bring in so much Excalibur and Captain Britain-related stuff because I do really love that stuff, but again, I’m not the only one. Tini does, Jonathan does.
16 comments:
He couldn't answer the first question at all so he made up a lot of BS. Convenient that he forgot how Jamie literally resurrected Betsy once, oh well.
Lol. Homeboy couldn't find a direct answer to this. If anything, Jamie's resurrection powers are way more reliable thatn Cerebro's "backups".
More proof that the folks currently in charge of the X-Men brand don't have a clue what they are doing.
I'm hoping he avoided answering the question because it would lead to a spoiler.
She's gotta come back, somehow. I think the "Excalibur must determine the fate of Betsy Braddock" has got to be a red herring.
I was hoping she'd reform before the end of the storyline but maybe she stays down, they're deciding if Betsy would wanna be ressurected or not under the iffy circumstances and then... *Bloop* She's back."Sorry luv, no need for you mad gits to decide."
"Like would that Betsy that Jamie makes from scratch be the real Betsy"
Well, are the usual Krakoan resurrections even bringing the real deceased mutants, rather than clones that just believe they are the people they were cloned from?
Following his logic, Betsy is not the real Betsy since Jamie remade her from scratch once already... Oh, and by extension Kwannon is not Kwannon either
We'll the event ends tomorrow (at last) so we'll have to wait and see
Brian Braddock is Captain Avalon now. The colours for his new costume are off. Avalon is in Great Britain and not Germany 🇩🇪. Black Red and Yellow are colours of Germany and according to that Brian is Captain Deutschland. WTF.
What if Betsy cracking was her illusion to trick Luna Saturnyne. It was the first time for Betsy to show anxiety and cowardice might have pretended to be so. She is a master illusionist although Tini Howard wouldn't pick that skill and instead choose her poison the traditional script of drama. Regrettably Betsy was wasted in this event.
Avalon is Otherworld, not Britain
The myth of Avalon is native to the United Kingdom. The title of Captain Britain is the highest in Otherworld. A consequence of the link between Great Britain and Otherworld is that the fairy tales of British people created the Otherworld the same reason the British colours exist on the Captain Britain suits. Before the Secret Wars changed the marvel universe the Otherworld was lying underneath the United Kingdom and Ireland.
I'm okay with Marvel staff not knowing folklore and traditions. Not being knowledgeable of their own continuity is another flaw that gave rise to Dan Slotts and parody documentaries.
That's only true to earth 616 though, as the captain corps has ad members whose identities were not Captain Britain
His answers contradict official Otherworld and X-Men history. I hope he doesn't pull our legs and hasn't big retcons in store for the sake of our mental health.
@lucasg_i to be precise Jamie was possessed by demon Horo'amce when he created a clone of the biological body for Betsy. Once again Betsy's intuition saved her from the worst.
Thomas Bacon did an interesting article on the implication of said demon in Krakoa affairs.
https://screenrant.com/xmen-theory-rogue-excalibur-secret-invader/
@Eoleo Glebatruss the Otherworld's Captain Britain Corps reflects the Commonwealth of the British Empire. Instances are often used in comics with different contexts.
The Commonwealth was transferred into comics through the Captain Britain Corps via alien members and exotic corpsmen from China and India to refer to the incorporation of foreign nations into the United Kingdom. This is neither good nor bad and definitely not racist to dress certain people and aliens in the British flag inside a magical realm. Every foreign corpsman maintains racial and cultural traits while serving Otherworld evident on their costumes.
The Fae, Troll, Elf and Leprechaun races lure magicians from different places like voodoo practitioners, witch doctors, shamans, gypsy mediums etc. to feed on their powers. Something similar happened to Meggan's gypsy family. So color and flags have little relevance to magic.
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