Wolverine #6
Benjamin Percy (W) • Viktor Bogdanovic (A)
Cover by: Adam Kubert
Wolverine Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
Variant Cover by: Daniel Warren Johnson
X of Swords, Part 3
Descent. Penance. A
legendary power reclaimed.
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X-Force #13
Benjamin Percy (W) • Viktor Bogdanovic (A)
Cover by: Dustin Weaver
Beast Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
Variant Cover by: Iban Coello
X of Swords, Part 4
Stealth. The power
within. The burden of knowledge.
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Marauders #13
Vita Ayala (W) • Matteo Lolli (A)
Cover by: Russell Dauterman
Variant Cover by: TBA
Hell’s Storm Horror
Variant Cover by: Khary Randolph
Iceman Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
X of Swords, Part 5
A secret flight. A
long journey. A Thief and a Queen.
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Hellions #5
Zeb Wells (W) • Carmen Carnero (A)
Cover by: Stephen Segovia
Variant Cover by: Sara Pichelli
Phoenix Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
X of Swords, Part 6
Desperation. Help
from unexpected places. An advance into the unknown.
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New Mutants #13
Ed Brisson (W) • Rod Reis (A)
Cover by: Mike Del Mundo
Variant Cover by: Adi Granov
Colossus Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
X of Swords, Part 7
Diligence.
Discipline. A sword of the self.
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Cable #5
Gerry Duggan (W) • Phil Noto (A/C)
Variant Cover by: TBA
X of Swords, Part 8
A hand held aloft. A
mystery in the stars. An ace up the sleeve.
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Excalibur #13
Tini Howard (W) • R.B. Silva (A)
Cover by: Mahmud Asrar
Variant Cover by: Lee Garbett
Nightcrawler Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Rossross
X of Swords, Part 9
Opposition. Despair.
The dark night of the soul.
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X-Men #13
Jonathan Hickman (W) • Mahmud Asrar (A)
Cover by: Leinil Francis Yu
Variant Cover by: TBA
Cyclops Timeless
Variant Cover by: Alex Ross
Legion of X-Monsters
Horror Variant Cover by: Russell Dauterman
X of Swords, Part 10
Lessons. Longing.
What has begun cannot be undone.
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X of Swords: Stasis
#1
Tini Howard & Jonathan Hickman (W)
Pepe
Larraz
& Mahmud Asrar (A)
Cover by: Pepe Larraz
Design Variant Cover by: Pepe Larraz
Variant Cover by: Coax
Variant Cover by: Mike Del Mundo
Variant Cover by: Olivier Coipel
Variant Cover by: TBA
X of Swords, Part 11
A ritual. A
parliament. A game begins.
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Thursday, July 16, 2020
X-Solicits for October 2020: X of Swords
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I love how Kwannon, Betsy and En Savah Nur are depicted on their respective covers!
Nice covers. It seems Betsy may fight Brian, and that Kitty will still be dead throughout this event (which is shocking; I expected Marvel to use every big X-Man they can in this event), but we know covers can be misleading, so we should wait and see.
The alarming part is to realize that all these issues (plus the first two shown in the September solicits) represent just the FIRST HALF of this event...
Brian is Lionheart? The big old lion gave it away.
I'd enjoy it more if Kwannon was her code name instead of the borrowed Psylocke. Has she a full name?
Kiki I hope everything about Brian is answered during this event.
Is he still a CB? If not, what's his code name?
What are his powers in this suit?
Are Merlyn and Roma alive? They came to him in a dream recently.
Is the sword corrupting him? He has not been the same at all since Betsy took the mantle.
My hope is that they both remain CB with Brian responsible over the UK and Betsy responsible over Krakoa and both responsible for Otherworld.
The sword is making Brian go mad. I don't like the status quo change. Betsy had a role as Psylocke and a place with the X-Men. Now all is fluid. It's dominoes one change causes another and there is no end.
Hunt 4 Wolvie and Disassembled was a fresh start for Betsy to go back to her roots in her body but bigwigs went back to the messy identity wars. Two Psylockes one original and one fake.
Brian is a victim of this. He pays Cebulski's inability to let go of the coochie-cutter Ninjalocke. Brian lost Captain Britain to Betsy and Betsy lost Psylocke to a Mandarin face job.
Kiki I'd be happy as a clam if Betsy reclaimed the codename and butterfly but I'm just accepting the fact that itll never happen and CB Betsy is the only form we will ever have at this point.
At high tide happy if the pretender gives up and gets outta Betsy's hair. Imma get dissed for bitchin about the name deal though I'm fighting the good fight. Each to their own cookie jar. Kannon was caught with her hand into Betsy's jar.
Good news Betsy got her body. Cap Brit Betsy doesn't get a warm reception and things go back to normal. Strikeforce got axed by 9 how long Howard keeps up with Excalibur?
Does Claremont has a say? If Ninjalocke is the famous Psylocke what about the original Chris Claremont made? Does he lose the accolades to Fabian Nicieza? He is the one who planted dat Kannon weed.
I guess it's impossible to please everyone when it comes to Betsy. Some people want her in her original body, some prefer her in Kwannon's. Some would like her to be in her body but as a ninja; others prefer her more focused on her telepathic skills (as she used to be before the body swap). While I dislike Kwannon, Marvel's decision to bring her back and give her the Psylocke codename isn't illogical to me, as many people (especially the ones who only have a superficial knowledge on the X-Men) associate Psylocke to the sexy 1990s ninja; that way, they would manage to please both the people who accused the body swap of being cultural appropriation and demanded Betsy to get her original body back, and the ones who wanted to still have the Asian psychic ninja.
Emphasis on "would manage"; as it turned out, they failed to achieve both of these goals. I guess people wouldn't be so insulted about Kwannon taking Psylocke's mantle if the books showed Betsy giving it to her, rather than Kwannon forcefully taking it. The Fallen Angels book is probably the one to blame; hopefully the writers of both Excalibur and Hellions will eventually show both women coming to terms.
That said, if we consider this is just another X-Men run that will eventually end and give room to a new one, maybe we shouldn't be so concerned. She can always regain the Psylocke identity when this X-era is over; in the meantime, I'll try to enjoy her time as Captain Britain (and hope that Howard will eventually start to give Betsy and her teammates a proper development instead of focusing solely on Apocalypse).
But I'm digressing. Back to X of Swords, is anyone else feeling that we still know next to nothing about this event? All we know is some beings are trying to get on Saturnyne's good side, that the X-Men will need to find ten swords for... something, that Apocalypse's original Horsemen will return for... reasons... and that's it.
I don't know, maybe that's a good thing and they're trying to keep us in the dark so that the surprises will be bigger, but honestly, it kinda annoys me that I still have absolutely no idea of what to expect. I trust Hickman, he's an amazing writer, and most of the other writers involved in this crossover are also very good (yes, Howard included), but it's still frustrating.
X of Swords is very witchy. Hickman gave his team too much freedom. The center of the new era is the emancipation of mutants from humans. Mysticism weighs down the story.
They can't get Betsy's powers right. Her precognition is done. She hasn't used it since Claremont left and then it was forgotten. I know it's impossible to be on Krakoa if she is still a visionary so make the effort to explain why it's not working. What's the point if characters aren't true to their cores. And Betsy wasn't cloned to lose herself. X-Factor hasn't helped to answer the questions about the cloning thing.
Hello, luvs.
1. How are you all?
2. When I heard this x-over would be 24 issues, I was irked, but the covers now have me intrigued. I pray Excalibur becomes good and that the characters in it started getting their due.
3. Betsy is my favorite character, and I dislike that her Disassembled potential was cut so short. That being said, I like Kwannon in Hellions. I dislike that she has yet to to be differentiated from Besty in her body, but Zeb Wells may do that given enough time, which I hope. I also hope that if Kwannon will remain Psylocke with the same power set, then she will at least stop manifesting Betsy's power signature or a likeness of it, and instead create her own. Kwannon has potential if Marvel would stop forcing her to be Betsy's facsimile. And I really need Betsy to be the character we saw evolve up to and through Disassembled versus the husk that she now is. Though, everyone in Excalibur is a shell of themselves save for [A]. If Tini wants an [A] solo book,I wish Marvel would instead transfer the other characters in that book to a new book scripted by someone who knows and loves them and wants to write for them.
4. Before Betsy and Kwannon are fully diverged, I would like someone (maybe Zeb) to fully explain some things that do not make sense with the latest retcon in their story:
A. How did Kwannon get back into her body with Betsy after her death by Matsu'o? Was she able to do so with the heightened powers that legacy Virus caused, and was it when Matsu'o thought he was taking back her psyche parts from Betsy and giving Betsy back her own?
B. With Kwannon being submerged within Betsy's psyche all along, did she also die and go to the afterlife with Betsy when Vargas killed that body and then also return when Jamie resurrected Betsy?
C. When Madelyn put Betsy back in her own body, did Kwannon come along for the ride and was she there when Betsy returned to Kwannon's body and fought that demon spirit that Madelyn also placed there?
D. When Styx sucked Betsy's soul out of Kwannon's body, was Kwannon left behind? The body appeared to be dead, so did she instead also get sucked into Styx with Betsy and then when Betsy broke free and used all that psi-energy to create a genetic duplicate of her original body, did she somehow instinctively release Kwannon's soul which she didn't know was there(?) from her pysche as part of her own rebirth, and put it back in its rightful body (or maybe Kwannon soul just got released to go to the afterlife with all the other Styx devoured souls and found its own way back into her own body)?
Those are all great questions! But I wonder if these things even apply now; from if I understood correctly the HoX/PoX spoilers I've read, the current timeline isn't exactly the same as the one from Disassembled, right? Sure, it's mostly the same, but some things were apparently changed in the timeline of Moira's current life (for instance, apparently AvX never happened in this new timeline and Xavier/X was possibly hiding for years planning the current Krakoan society).
If that's the case, part of the story involving Betsy and Kwannon may have happened in a different way than what we saw before. The body swap still happened, as both women acknowledge it, but maybe the events involving Vargas, the Red Queen and Styx never happened in this timeline (of course, if that's the case, we'd still need to find out how the body swap was undone here).
Oh well; that said, I fully agree that Kwannon should give Betsy the psychic signature (a.k.a. the psychic butterfly) back. Considering that the idea is to portray Kwannon as the 1990s Psylocke, well, Psylocke barely manifested the psychic butterfly back in the 1990s, so it's not like Kwannon needs it anyway. And Betsy DOES need it.
But, in case my understanding of the current timeline is wrong and all the things that happened before it still stand, here are my guesses:
A. Possibly Spiral merged both women's psyches so deeply that when Betsy's original body died, Kwannon's consciousness was transferred to her body (used by Betsy back then) and stayed dormant or unable to take control of the body.
B. I guess that's exactly what happened, yes; both died when Vargas killed Kwannon's body, and both returned when Jamie revived the body, exactly the same way they were before the death.
C. Possibly. I also think Kwannon may have been that demon spirit Betsy fought (but why was she keeping Betsy under the Red Queen's control, I have no idea).
D. Yeah, I guess Kwannon was left behind. It may be weird to think she returned in a dead body - but then again, we only have Styx's assessment that the body was dead, and since Betsy was creating hallucinations in Styx's head from inside, it's possible she didn't realize the body was still alive.
FSaker Hickman won't explain the changes in detail. Will he explain if the reality change has to do with Nate Grey? Or is that also retconned out with Kid Cable?
And Legion? Krakoa said it keeps powerful mutants on it. We are at the billionth time of split timelines. Franklin, Jamie and Legion can change it with a snap of their fingers. Precogs are the least trouble for Moira and Xavier.
I've had enough of Kannon shoving herself down our throats to make us believe she is Psylocke. She is a messed up retcon with boobs and butt. And I'm tired of Betsy getting disgraced by Marvel. Jim Lee could give the ninja thong to Karma and call it a day. All I can say is Kannon works better as a villain like in the fox movie.
Hi, can someone catch me up with what's going on with Kwannon? I stopped reading comics about five years ago and i've done enough research to get the gist behind the latest with Betsy but there doesn't seem to be as much info out there on Kwannon--definitely want to be following both of these characters going forward now that both are back in the picture (for good this time it seems???).
@zeeza, Well, let's see... right after Betsy's soul was sucked from Kwannon's body by Styx (and then Betsy destroyed Styx from inside and used the residual energy to reconstruct her original body), Kwannon's body was reawakened by her latent consciousness. She murdered Joseph (Magneto's clone) when he attacked Cyclops's team (during that time, most of mutantkind - including Betsy - were taken to another dimension by Nate Grey and everyone else thought they had died, with Cyclops and Wolverine leading some of the few X-Men that remained on Earth) and became an ally of them.
Afterwards, House of X and Powers of X happened and it's hard to know if those events I described above are still canon, as the current timeline is a repetition of the previous one but Moira (who was living and dying in other timelines including the previous one, always being reborn with all the knowledge from her previous lives) caused interferences that changed the way some things happened (for instance, the Avengers vs X-Men event apparently never happened in the current timeline).
Anyway, Moira, with the help of X (a.k.a. Charles Xavier) and Magneto, created the current Krakoan society, where mutantkind now lives. Both Betsy and Kwannon eventually became citizens there, but Kwannon was bitter at Betsy for considering her guilty of her time "locked" inside Betsy's mind without being able to do anything (which wasn't really Betsy's fault, and Kwannon eventually acknowledges that - but only to herself). She was also skeptical about Krakoa being the paradise that most of the Krakoan citizens believe it is.
Then the events of the Fallen Angels book took place, and I must confess I don't know much about it, except that she took the identity of Psylocke (both the codename and the outfit, with her being the new Psylocke while Betsy became the new Captain Britain) and was pursuing a threat that appeared in a vision to her, and being aided by X-23 and Cable (the young one; the old one is still dead, but they're the same person anyway). I suppose she managed to destroy the threat, and currently she's part of the Hellions team, a team led by Havok, composed mostly of former X-villains, and subordinated to Mr. Sinister.
I guess someone familiar with the stories in Fallen Angels and Hellions can fill in the (many) blanks of the description above. I hope this was helpful to you.
@FSaker, where did you read that AvX is no longer canon. I thought Remender said that everything we saw prior to HoX happened.
What I’m confused about is if it all did happen when did Moira resurrect after Mystique murdered her? Wasn’t her assassination in this very same timeline we’re in now as her tenth life?
@Rahsaan, I read that one issue of HoX/PoX shows a picture of the Phoenix Five labeling it as "the lost age" or something like that, and it appears alongside pictures of other lives of Moira (like one where she supported Magneto against both the Avengers and the X-Men, and another one where she supported Apocalypse). Plus, Marvel announced that Claremont will rewrite the God Loves, Man Kills graphic novel adapting it to the current timeline (which I'm not sure is a good idea; the last time Claremont tried to rewrite his stories, we got X-Men Forever and... well... yeah).
As for Moira being murdered by Mystique, I suppose it also happened in one of her previous lives, not her current life in the current timeline. Well, HoX and PoX will start being published in my country this month, so I'll get to understand better this whole timeline thing.
@FSaker Thank you!! This is incredibly helpful to me. I'm still a little confused about some things but I think it's just stuff I will have to read about in order to actually understand.
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I'm curious to see how this fight turns out between Betsy and Brian. Assuming Jamie wont be there to intervene or manipulate the outcome.
FSaker the reason there are so many different wants from the character is Marvels fault. They just cant leave the girl alone, every 5-10yrs theres some major shift in the character.
She was introduced as a precog, then a full fledged telepath, then a ninja, then she could teleport, then she was a telekinetic, then she gets her old body back, now shes captain britain (long term this time)
Its only natural for there to be people who are fans for each iteration.
While you could argue most comic characters experience changes over the years I cant say any other character has come close in regards to Betsy. She seems to always have a shift in powers and identity. One writer focuses on her telepathy, others focus on just her telekinesis. Some write her fun and adventurous and others write her stoic and bland (like Tini unfortunately)
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