Monday, June 23, 2025

X-Men Monday #300 – Tom Brevoort on Betsy Braddock

To celebrate the 300th edition of X-Men Monday at AIPT, Senior X-Men Editor Tom Brevoort gave an in-depth interview touching on the future of the X-line — including key insights about Betsy Braddock following the end of X-Force. He acknowledged the passionate fanbase around her, the challenges of defining her current direction, and the reality of sales-driven decisions at Marvel.

As readers, it's more important than ever to keep emailing officex@marvel.com to demand a new book for Betsy and to show continued support for the character.

AIPT: Betsy Braddock in every book. That’s the answer [to make 80% of X-Men fans all happy in the same way].

Tom: If only. And not to poke it, but that very vocal segment of fandom was writing in before the last X-Force issue even came out, going, “When is she going to be in another book?” It’s like, she’s in a book right now, guys. It was a book that you guys liked, and a lot of other people didn’t pay attention to. So now it’s going to go away, and maybe there’ll be another chance. So you’re certainly showing me that there are a number of people who like that character or like this iteration of that character.

Although even within that, there’s a span of people who want her to be Psylocke again, there are people who want her to stay as Captain Britain, and there are people who want her to be some other new thing that’s neither of the two, but that speaks to her background. So right there, it’s sort of a multiple-choice question — which is the way to go? And the answer is: The best idea wins.

AIPT: So, my next question is actually inspired by Betsy’s fanbase. Obviously, you want to create comics that readers enjoy — but they also have to sell. So, what is the most effective and constructive way for X-Fans to express demand for a character?

Tom: Well, certainly showing up when those characters appear and/or when those characters appear in stories that are to people’s liking. Just because somebody likes Betsy Braddock doesn’t mean they’re going to love every Betsy Braddock story that gets done. It’s the monkey’s paw of being a comic book fan that people will be dying to have a favorite character show up again, and then they will, and it’ll be in some story or some usage they just don’t like at all. That’s a very familiar story.

But in addition to being vocal about it and bombarding me — all of that never hurts — you can also get the word out to other people. Like you said, we are a business, and the thing that’s going to move the needle the most is actual sales. Actual paying customers coming to the book and showing there’s an audience there that will put their money where their mouth is. It’s a difficult thing for any one fan, but for groups, it is possible to move the needle.

Honestly, it happens very rarely, in my experience. The greatest example of that I’ve ever seen were the fans of Spider-Girl, the Tom DeFalco, Ron Frenz, and Pat Olliffe series. That was a series that seemed like it was teetering on the verge of cancellation every six months. And whenever that word would go out, you would see that hardcore fanbase mobilized effectively in terms of getting stores to increase their orders, or in terms of getting book buyers to be more interested in carrying collected editions.

Those fans were incredibly clever and effective at getting their message across. They weren’t just telling you what they want, but showed an actual understanding that moving the needle is the whole game. Because while there are fans of Spider-Girl and Betsy Braddock, there are fans of every other character. You can’t name a character that doesn’t have their fans. But the Spider-Girl fans are the gold standard in terms of that type of activism.

AIPT: Are there any updates you can share on where Betsy Braddock — and Rachel Summers — might land following X-Force?

Tom: Right now, X-Force has run its course in its current iteration, and that means both Betsy and Rachel are sort of back to being active X-Men characters that could show up anywhere. Is there a specific plan yet? Not one that I’m ready to say anything about. 

We’ll see a couple of hints of Rachel in a few places. I read a script just this morning that had some Rachel activity in it. But I can’t direct you to a specific point where those fans will get exactly what they want. I don’t know that all of those fans can have exactly what they want, because like I said, it’s a span. But again, for all the Betsy and Rachel fans, there are all the fans of all the characters that weren’t in any of the initial launch books, who are also waiting their turn for their favorites to show up again. It’s like a line for resurrection.

AIPT: Before we move on from Betsy, as a follow-up, based on what you’ve read online and in fan mail, what are your biggest takeaways on why Betsy Braddock is so appealing to her fans?

Tom: That’s a fairly good question, and I’m not sure I could point to one specific thing. Certainly, she’s got history. She’s a character who has been around since the ‘70s in a variety of different iterations. I think people have definitely keyed into her as the champion of Avalon. I think people seem to be really invested in her relationship with Rachel, more so than I might’ve anticipated before getting into this. But I don’t know that there’s any one specific thing that I could point to yet.

And all the readers of X-Men Monday can now bombard me with the obvious thing that I’m not thinking of. And that’s fine. They should definitely do that — I have plenty to learn.

AIPT: Tom, is there anything else you’d like to share or tease?

Tom: I guess the only thing I could tease is it’ll be a big end of year, for good or ill. I’m hoping for good, but you can never predict these things ahead of time. But a big end of 2025 for the X-Men and the line in general.

AIPT: And the X-Men will never be the same again?

Tom: I don’t know about that, but it will certainly be catastrophic and earth-changing. And nobody will miss that it’s going on.

AIPT: And maybe we’ll see Betsy there.

Tom: Maybe. Maybe.

15 comments:

randybear said...

Sounds grim

Rahsaan said...

Thanks for this update. I didn't realize many readers are invested in Elizabeth being with Rachel.

Kaldervallry said...

Everytime he speaks he proves to me that he shouldn't be an X-Men editor, he doesn't know or care about Betsy he just cares about profit

Kaldervallry said...

Rachel fans are mostly the ones who like it, since she can't be with Kitty and they hate all her male love interests, Betsy's the best shot for her getting a romantic story

Nate X said...

There really isn’t. It’s just one very vocal XTwitter person pushing this nonsense “Retsy” thing as if they were a single entity. It’s king of weird if you think about it.

FSaker said...

"(...) and that means both Betsy and Rachel are sort of back to being active X-Men characters that could show up anywhere"

...I guess that's better than nothing. Still, instead of being cameos in other X-books, I'd like to see Betsy and Rachel becoming permanent parts of a roster. I think they'd fit very well in Logan's team, since most of their closest friends are there (then again, I'm not following that book to know if its stories are actually good).

You know, these days I was re-reading the Disassembled run (the X-Men one, not the Avengers one), and while it had its share of flaws, I think Marvel made a huge mistake not keeping Betsy and Kwannon the way they were in that run. I think that Kwannon could regain her memories and reclaim the Revanche codename while keeping the revamped ninja outfit with that mask and hood (which made her look more mysterious). I think she'd still become popular with the readers that liked the "Ninjalocke" legacy by being the stealth expert with the psi-knife, while Betsy could still use her TK sword and shield while keeping the Psylocke identity. I get that they thought that giving both women new mantles would be a change of pace, but so far it was very negative for Betsy's visibility - and while Kwannon seems to be getting a lot of attention as the new Psylocke, it also seems to be hindering her development as her own character.

Banquo40 said...

Maybe what happened is this: the die-hard Betsy fans — people like us — will follow her into almost any story. So to Tom Brevoort’s point, the book did have a core audience. But then he asked, why didn’t anyone else show up? Why didn’t the wider X-Men fanbase or casual readers get on board?

At the same time, if the argument is that there are more fans of Betsy and Rachel together than Marvel originally thought, then why didn’t those fans support the books either, after many attempts to make it work? That suggests that maybe the pairing, or at least the way it was written and presented, just didn’t connect. It wasn’t enough to draw in new readers or keep the momentum going.

So you could reasonably conclude that the people who didn’t buy the book didn’t like what they saw. Who really knows all the factors at play, but what we can say is that the story wasn’t reaching a broad enough audience. And when that happens, something has to change — whether it’s the direction, the tone, or yes, even the relationship.

Maybe the truth is that more people don’t like the pairing than it seems — the loudest voices online don’t always reflect what most readers actually want.I don’t think breaking them up would be an attack on representation and maybe they are afraid of a backlash. As someone who’s part of the LGBTQ+ community, I want to see queer stories that are compelling and dynamic — not ones that feel stagnant or forced like they are checking a box. If the relationship isn’t engaging enough to carry a book, then it’s time to try something else. I mean if everything comes down to sales, thats just good business.

X-Man said...

Maybe I'm too hot today lol, but it actually doesn't sound grim to me.

I think he definitely knows where/what book Betsy is going and just can't or won't say yet.

I also think it is a good sign so much of this article is about her. He definitely is seeing she is a very popular character.

Imo I think he is going to remove the CB mantle from her. I think his statements that a lot liked the direction she was going with Thorne means fans have been very vocal and he noticed.

Overall X-Force was a team book, so I don't think he could believe Betsy all by herself would make or break sales (which were not bad imo) or that she alone would be responsible for it.

I do wish they would have let Thorne reveal that Tank was Colossus earlier, because I think having both Peter & Betsy would have helped it sell even more.

I'm definitely going to write in and say I honestly preferred Betsy with Warren. I just don't feel like she and Rachel fit or are believable lol.

And I'm definitely up to educating him on Betsy if he really wants lol.

All of X-Force currently doesn't have a "home" so im pretty happy to see that Betsy is being talked about so much.

Crossing fingers :)

X-Man said...

I agree somewhat @Banquo40.

Though I definitely will say even die hards have limits lol.

I gave Howard 2 chances and she never delivered imo, when she did the 3rd book, I couldn't bring myself to purchase smh lol.

I think at least the difference here is Brevoort knows a lot liked Betsy in the direction Thorne was taking her vs knowing a lot disliked Howard's version.

I do think one thing that may not have helped is X-Force being so isolated and not really connected to other X-Stories.

I agree with what you said about backlash too.

Sometimes I think tptb try too hard, like as a Black man I understood what the Fallen Angels writer and TH was trying to say with the Kwannon and Betsy mess.

However, it was kinda insulting.

Yes, I never liked a white woman being in control of a minority woman's body (reminded me of the movie "Get Out" lol), but I also understood that Betsy had no say in the events and was a victim in all of it.

No (or at least imo most) minority would ever blame Betsy just solely because she is a white woman.

And I will never support victim blaming.

It seemed like tptb couldn't get that part, and also seemed like its possible they aren't getting that Betsy and Rachel are just a couple.

If they break up, I think most of the audience won't think its because tptb are against it being a lgbtq pairing and more cause they are kinda boring lol.

I also disliked Betsy with Neal and Fantomex as well lol.

But I definitely agree with a lot of what you said.

Rahsaan said...

I recall that time when Tini compared Betsy and R’Chel to read c and Start, and I thought, “okay, homegirl is kinda deluded.”

Rahsaan said...

In my letter to Tom, I asked him if he’d consider reuniting the Outback
iteration for at least a one-shot or a mini if not a full-on series. I think it’d be interesting to see the gang on a mission or a few and see how team dynamic might change and status the same in various facets since all the members of the run have had such wild experiences since that short time.

X-Man said...

@Rahsaan that's a pretty cool idea. I'd love to see that.

THE FLYING NEGRO said...

I think Betsy's proverbial "Goose" is cooked for now in the comics, mostly because they just don't know how to re-integrate her back into the comics successfully. It's so funny and ironic, a lot of the newer X-Men fanbase used to chastise older fans for sexualizing and fetishizing Betsy because she was in the sexy Asian ninja body, but look at what Marvel and the new fans have done...they basically kept the body, and threw Betsy Braddock the character in the garbage can. She is now on the same level as a Dazzler.

Though I like Kwannon, she is a bland character and try as they might to flesh her character out, she still has not found a definitive voice (IMO). She is basically just the body, the Jim Lee Psylocke body.

Before Tini Howard's "Captain" treatment and queer feminist makeover, Betsy had been a prominent part of the X-Men. She had been constantly in the book and part of major storylines. The biggest mistake was in separating her from the X-Men team proper and islanding her off in other books. All so that Tini Howard could write what she wanted without having to do homework or pay attention to what was going on in the main X-Men titles.

If a character is gone too long, it becomes harder and harder to go back. Now that they have the Kwannon Body/Paper Doll in the "Psylocke" role, with all Betsy's powers and signature, it's easy for folks to just forget about Betsy all together. I say the character should be shelved until someone has a way to fix her. I don't want to see her thrown on a current book with this awful crop of bad writers. Gail Simone barely uses any X-Men in Uncanny. Jed MacKay's generic superhero book with throwaway characters and chatgpt plots. Stephanie Phillips boring "girl comic" with Jean Grey being a secondary character in her own book. I don't trust anyone at Marvel currently with Betsy Braddock.

Psyblast said...

Can a writer be brave enough to have Rachel break Betsy's heart and cheat on her with Kitty? That will give the fan service and also that relationship is the actual lesbian ship that has been built up for decades. Betsy needs to go back to her old ways. Just because it wasn't her body doesn't mean it wasn't her mind. This new Betsy is something different that a lot of fans don't like. She was sleek and sexy for 30 years and suddenly she's caucasian so she has to wear bulky armor and act masculine?

Unknown said...

I think we have two very vocal Captain Britain fans. And honestly you cannot fault or hate on them. If thats what they like then thats what they like but I do disagree that most fans are on board with it. I think our fans that want her to go back to Psylocke need to come to terms with that not happening and just start pushing for her to not be Captain Britain anymore because that has taken her away from the X-Universe. And for the fans that are really into the mantle and Corps and say that there is so much to explore on that side must also realize that Marvel has literally done NOTHING with it. They didnt treat her like Jane Foster or Captain Marvel. They didnt put her in events they didnt let her cameo in the broader Marvel universe. It just didnt work. No writer seemed interested in doing anything. So as a fan base we must align and be a strong voice. TBs whole thing is that he wants writers to have interst and pitch and that he doesnt ask for pitches.